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    <title>Essays in Honor of OOS</title>
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    <published>2009-11-19T22:47:36Z</published>
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    <summary>Genetics has published three essays in honor of 150th anniversary of the Origin. Allen Orr’s piece provides an interesting historical perspective on the interaction between the science of evolution (or Darwinism) and the impacts on society. The Charlesworths provide an opinion on the importance of Darwin on genetics (note that they get the D-M speciation model wrong by suggesting that it’s anything but apathetic toward the role of natural selection). And Adam Wilkins weighs in...</summary>
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        <name>Matt Young</name>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p><em>Genetics</em> has published three essays in honor of 150<sup>th</sup> anniversary of the Origin. Allen Orr’s piece provides an interesting historical perspective on the interaction between the science of evolution (or Darwinism) and the impacts on society. The Charlesworths provide an opinion on the importance of Darwin on genetics (note that they get the D-M speciation model wrong by suggesting that it’s anything but apathetic toward the role of natural selection). And Adam Wilkins weighs in on whether Darwin was a genius or a plodder.</p>

<p>Acknowledgement:  Thanks to Richard Meisel for the blurb and the links.</p>

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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p><a href="http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/abstract/183/3/767" rel="external ">Darwin and Darwinism: The (Alleged) Social Implications of The Origin of Species</a>, by Allen Orr.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/abstract/183/3/757" rel="external ">Darwin and Genetics</a>, by Brian and Deborah Charlesworth.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/abstract/183/3/773" rel="external ">Charles Darwin: Genius or Plodder?</a>, by Adam S. Wilkins.
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<entry>
    <title>Freshwater: A Bonsell in the offing?</title>
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    <published>2009-11-19T04:34:47Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-19T04:37:46Z</updated>

    <summary>One of the low points for the defense in Kitzmiller was the testimony of Alan Bonsell, who was President of the Dover Area District Board of Education at the time of the adoption of the policy that provoked the lawsuit. Specifically, his sworn testimony in a pretrial deposition was found to be seriously contradicted by his equally sworn testimony in the court. Though it ultimately came to nothing, Judge Jones went so far as to...</summary>
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        <name>Richard B. Hoppe</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>One of the low points for the defense in <em>Kitzmiller</em> was the testimony of Alan Bonsell, who was President of the Dover Area District Board of Education at the time of the adoption of the policy that provoked the lawsuit.  Specifically, his sworn testimony in a pretrial deposition was found to be seriously contradicted by his equally sworn testimony in the court.  Though it ultimately came to nothing, Judge Jones went so far as to refer the matter to prosecutors for potential perjury charges.  (See <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/day18pm.html#day18pm350" rel="external ">here</a> and <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/day18pm2.html#day18pm1282" rel="external ">here</a> for the pertinent testimony.)</p>

<p>Now a roughly similar situation appears to have arisen in the Freshwater affair.  It centers around the process by which Zachary Dennis was burned with a Tesla coil, and Freshwater is contradicting himself about it in two sets of sworn testimony and a motion filed in federal court.  I’ll describe them in separate sections, reproducing a good deal of the testimony for the flavor of what goes on.</p>

<p>First recall that there are three legal proceedings under way, the administrative hearing on Freshwater’s termination; a federal suit brought against the district, administrators, and Freshwater; and a federal suit brought by Freshwater against the Dennis family, the district, and sundry others (including a number of unidentified John or Jane Does).  The first two are the focus here.  This is a long post, with lots of quotations from various of the legal venues, but it should give a feeling for the problems Freshwater is creating for himself in his sworn testimony in the several proceedings.</p>

<p>A schedule note:  The administrative hearing was supposed to resume November 17, but did not do so and has been postponed to Dec 10.</p>

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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p><strong>Administrative hearing testimony</strong></p>

<p>First, there’s Zachary’s hearing testimony on May 7, 2009, under questioning by Freshwater’s attorney about how Freshwater used the Tesla coil on students’ arms.  In his testimony, (Transcript XIX 5-7-09.pdf) Zachary described it this way.  I’ve extracted pertinent parts from the transcript; there was a fair amount of shuffling around to set up a demonstration table with an overhead projector.  Throughout the quotations in this section “Q” is R. Kelly Hamilton, Freshwater’s attorney, and “A” is Zachary.)</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p><br />
Describing how the Tesla coil felt on his skin, Zachary testified</p>

<p>4 A. My experience the first time it was applied to me was a<br />
5 burning sensation. It left little tiny welt-like things, and<br />
6 then it turned red. And it just felt like static electricity<br />
7 shock but stronger.<br />
8 Q. Referring back to your diagram, Employee Exhibit No. 61,<br />
9 where did the application of the Tesla coil take place upon<br />
10 you?<br />
11 A. On the overhead.<br />
12 Q. On the overhead. Using what’s going to be a blue<br />
13 marker, I want you to mark on Employee Exhibit No. 61<br />
14 precisely where you had the Tesla coil applied to you in John<br />
15 Freshwater’s classroom.<br />
16 A. (Witness complied.)<br />
17 Q. And you circled the overhead?<br />
18 A. Yes.</p>

<p>After some rearranging of furniture in the hearing room to represent the classroom with an overhead projector near the front:</p>

<p>22 Q. So Mr. Freshwater was standing behind the projector but<br />
23 between his desk and the overhead projector. Correct?<br />
24 A. Yes.<br />
25 Q. Standing slightly off center to the right?<br />
</p>



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<p>
and then from succeeding testimony:
</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p><br />
Q. Okay. So when you walked up, Mr. Freshwater is holding<br />
19 the Tesla coil. Which hand is he holding the Tesla coil in?<br />
20 A. Probably his left or right. I don’t know what hand.<br />
21 Q. Well, it has to be left or right. Which do you think it<br />
22 would be?<br />
23 A. Most likely his left.<br />
24 Q. So left hand?<br />
25 A. Yes.</p>

<p>[SNIP]</p>

<p>7 Q. So at this point, what happens next? You approach.<br />
8 Just tell me what happens next.<br />
9 A. I put my arm like this.<br />
(Laid his arm on the plate of the overhead projectors)<br />
10 Q. Um-hum.<br />
11 A. Then he put his arm like this. <br />
(Indicating Freshwater’s arm was across Zach’s hand’wrist)<br />
12 And then he took the Tesla coil and went up and down twice and across twice.</p>

<p>[SNIP]</p>

<p>23 A. Put your forearm here, and take this hand and go up and<br />
24 down twice and across twice.<br />
25 Q. Okay. Now, I’m holding this like a pen.<br />
1 A. Go like this.<br />
2 Q. Okay. Now, what you’ve just described this as is a fist<br />
3 with a pen inserted into my fist. Correct?<br />
4 A. Yes.<br />
5 Q. Okay. You may touch me and just go ahead and<br />
6 demonstrate. And this is the guy that matters right here.<br />
7 A. Okay.<br />
8 Q. So if you won’t mind standing right there for me,<br />
9 demonstrate what occurred.<br />
10 A. Okay. Down, like, about four inches, and up and down<br />
11 and across and across. Kind of pulls his arm, lifted up his<br />
12 arm. And I walked back to my seat.<br />
13 Q. Walked back to your seat, and that was that?<br />
14 A. That was that.</p>

<p>[SNIP]</p>

<p>Hamilton got a volunteer from the gallery to serve as Zach’s body double in the demonstration so Zach could direct.</p>

<p>8 Q. Zach, you get in whatever position you need to see.<br />
9 A. Okay.<br />
10 Q. Would you agree that the individual coming up just put<br />
11 their right arm down? Correct?<br />
12 A. Yes.<br />
13 Q. Now, when they put their right arm down, Mr. Freshwater,<br />
14 you said, used his right arm over your right wrist. Correct?<br />
15 A. Yes.<br />
16 Q. Now, when he put his right arm over your right wrist,<br />
17 was his hand clenched or was it palm on your wrist<br />
18 controlling your wrist?<br />
19 A. I think it was clenched, not palm.</p>

<p>[SNIP]</p>

<p>2 Q. Okay. And at that point, did you feel like you could<br />
3 pull away?<br />
4 A. No.<br />
5 Q. If you wanted to pull your arm out, did you feel like<br />
6 you could or could not?<br />
7 A. No.<br />
</p>



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<p>
So in Zach’s testimony we see him with his arm on the plate of the overhead, Freshwater with one forearm holding down Zach’s wrist with the Tesla coil in his other hand, and he makes two vertical swipes and two horizontal swipes with the Tesla coil on Zach’s forearm.  The picture above is nearly identical to what Zachary described in his earlier testimony in October 28, 2008 (I’m not going to type out that transcript, too!  I have images of the text that can’t be cut and pasted.).</p>

<p>Now consider Freshwater’s testimony in the hearing on October 28, 2008, late the same day that Zachary first testified.  Freshwater testified that he did use the Tesla coil on Zachary’s arm:</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p><br />
Q.  How did  you do this?  You heard Zach’s description.  Do you disagree with that or agree with it?  Zach’s description was, he placed his arm on the overhead projector, you held his hand with one arm and put a mark up and down and crossed with the other.  That part is what I’m asking you about, not what  you described it as [the daisy chain of students].  I’m going to ask you about that later.  But the method by which you did it …<br />
A.  You’re – I’m not getting your question.<br />
Q.  I’m sorry.  I asked you, is that accurate?<br />
A.  Is that accurate?<br />
Q.  I believe I said, do you agree with Zach’s testimony?<br />
A.  No.<br />
Q.  You tell us how you did it.<br />
A.  When?  With Zach?<br />
Q.  Okay.  Let’s start with Zach.<br />
A.  I do not remember to go into that detail.<br />
Q.  Okay.  If you don’t remember, are you sure that Zach is inaccurate?<br />
A.  Is he inaccurate?<br />
Q.  In the way he described that you did it to him.<br />
A.  I don’t do it that way, so that would be inaccurate.<br />
Q.  How do you do it?<br />
A.  Zach mentioned one way, students holding hands I’m holding it –<br />
Q.  I’m talking specifically to Zach.  Did  you put–did you use this device on Zach Dennis’s …<br />
A.  Yes<br />
Q. … arm?<br />
A.  Yes<br />
Q.  And did it leave a mark that you saw?<br />
A.  No.<br />
Q.  And how did you do it when you used it on Zach’s arm?<br />
A.  The student comes up and gives me their arm.  And I just use the Tesla coil on them.  And most of the time they pull away.<br />
Q.  Okay.  And if you would hold their arm down they wouldn’t be able to pull away.<br />
A.  I didn’t hold his arm down.<br />
Q.  That wasn’t my question.  If you hold their arm down, they won’t be able to pull away, would they?  That’s my question.<br />
A.  If I held their arm down, would they be able to pull away?  No.</p>



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<p>Then a bit later:</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p><br />
Q.  Now, when students come up and volunteer, does it ever leave a mark?<br />
A.  Does it leave a mark?<br />
Q.  When you’re dealing with individual students.  I’m not talking about where you have them holding hands like there.  But when you’re dealng with an individual student and you’re marking their arm or you’re using it on their arm, does it ever leave a mark?<br />
A.  Slight red, yeah.</p>



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<p>And then a little later:
</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p><br />
Q.  Zach also testified that you indicated this would leave a mark like a tattoo of a cross for a short period of time.<br />
A.  I do not remember saying that.<br />
Q.  You’re seen the pictures?<br />
A.  Yes.<br />
Q.  And do you find that those are accurate depictions of Zach’s arm?<br />
A.  Are they?  Yes.<br />
Q.  At various times this has been described as an X or a cross.  Quote frankly, I don’t care which one it is at the moment.  But did  you ever describe that you put an X on students?<br />
A.  I do not remember saying anything about a cross.<br />
Q.  That wasn’t my question.  My question is, Did you ever say that you puit an X on him?<br />
A.  Yes.<br />
Q.  Is an X a mark?<br />
A.  Yes<br />
Q.  And is it your position that you put an X on Zach and not a cross?<br />
A.  Yes.</p>



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<p>So we have Freshwater conceding that he put a mark on Zachary’s arm, and he claims that it’s an X and not a cross.  He disputes the accuracy of Zachary’s account of exactly how it got there, but he cannot remember specifically how he did it.</p>

<p><strong>Freshwater Deposition</strong></p>

<p>In mid-October 2009 Mr. Freshwater was deposed by the Dennis family’s attorney for their federal suit.  Recall that the <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/08/one-freshwater.html" rel="">school district defendants settled</a> their portion of that suit in August 2009 but Freshwater remains a defendant in it.</p>

<p>In the deposition Doug Mansfield, the Dennis’s attorney, questioned Freshwater about the incident.
</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p><br />
After reading Freshwater’s testimony from the admin hearing:<br />
Q.  So in your previous testimony [in the hearing] you confirmed that this device would leave red marks on kids’ arms.<br />
A.  On myself.  On me.<br />
Q.  Well, the question was asking about students, was it not?<br />
A.  Can you read that again, sir?<br />
Q.  “Question: But when you’re dealing with an individual student and you’re marking their arm or you’re using it on their arm, does it ever leave a mark?”<br />
“Answer: Slight red, yeah.”<br />
Did I read that correctly?<br />
A.  Yes, you read it correctly.<br />
Q.  And so your testimony then is – your testimony then was that yes, it would leave a red mark on a kid’s arm when you applied it to them.  Is that true?<br />
A.  Like I say, I misspoke there.  I’m talking about myself.<br />
Q.  Okay.  You believe it would leave a red mark on your arm, right?  That’s what you just said.<br />
A.  Yes.<br />
Q.  But you don’t think it would leave a red mark on a kid’s arm?<br />
A.  I’ve never – I haven’t seen red marks on kids’ arms, sir.<br />
Q.  Don’t you think if it left a red mark on your arm, it would. likewise, leave a red mark on a kid’s arm?<br />
A.  We need to back up.  We talked about with me how many times I use it on myself.</p>

<p>[SNIP]</p>

<p>Q,  You’ve seen pictures of the mark on James Doe’s arm,<br />
A.  Yes.<br />
Q.  And you saw those in previous testimony.<br />
A.  Yes, I saw them.  I’m just trying to think when I saw the first one.  Yes.<br />
Q.  Okay.  And it’s fair to say, isn’t it, that at least as depicted in those pictures, and I understand that you dispute that you did that, but at least in those pictures the mark that appears on James Doe’s arm is in the shape of a cross, correct?<br />
A.  No.<br />
Q.  You don’t agree with that?<br />
A.  I don’t agree with that.<br />
Q.  What do you think that the mark looks like?<br />
A.  I’m going to – we keep talking about this mark –<br />
Q.  I’m simply asking –<br />
A.  No, let me put – can I say something, sir?<br />
Q.  No, you may not.  If you have something to say –</p>

<p>MR. HAMILTON [Freshwater’s attorney]:  If you’re going to let him answer the question, he was trying to answer your question.<br />
MR. MANSFIELD:  Well, he’s not answering my question.  My question was a simple one.  Would you read back my question, please? [Reporter read it back]</p>

<p>A.  Like an X.<br />
Q.  Okay.  When you applied the Tesla coil to James Doe’s arm, is it your testimony that you made a shape in the form of an X or a shape in the form of a cross?</p>

<p>MR. HAMILTON:  I’m going to object at this time.</p>

<p>A.  On advice of my counsel I invoke my Fifth Amendment right to be free from self-incrimination as the existing statute of limitation in this matter has not expired.<br />
Q.  Let me show  you something from your testimony from your termination hearing.  On page 403, line 6,   Let’s go back to line 1.  “Question:  The various times this has been described as an X or a cross, I frankly don’t care which one it is at the moment, but did you ever describe that you put an X on students”?  “Answer:  I do not remember ever saying anything about a cross.”  Did I read those two correctly?<br />
A.  Yes.<br />
Q.  The next line: “Question:  That wasn’t my question.  My question is did you ever say that you put an X on him?”  “Answer: Yes.”  Did I read those correctly?<br />
A.  Yes.<br />
Q.  The next question: “Is an X a mark?”  Answer: “Yes.”  Did I read those correctly?<br />
A.  Yes.<br />
Q.  The next question: “Question:  Is it your position here today that you put an X on James and not a cross?”  “Answer: Yes.”  Did I read those correctly?<br />
A.  Yes.<br />
[Several lines of back and forth in confusion]<br />
Q.  That wasn’t my question, sir.  My question was your testimony at the time when you testified during your termination proceedings was that you put a mark on James Doe’s  arm and not a cross.  Is that correct?<br />
A.  Then I will have to say I misspoke there.  I did not put a mark.<br />
Q.  Now today you’re denying putting any kind of mark on James Doe’s arm; is that correct?<br />
A.  That would be correct.<br />
</p>



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<p>So in his hearing testimony he made a mark, and in his deposition he didn’t.  When asked specifically about whether he put a mark on Zachary’s arm, he now takes the Fifth Amendment, which is his right.</p>

<p><strong>Filing for Summary Judgment</strong></p>

<p>The deposition didn’t get into the procedure Zachary described that Freshwater disputed.  But there is one final document that was recently filed in the federal case that’s pertinent.  On November 16, 2009, Freshwater filed for summary judgment for dismissal of the battery claim in the civil suit the Dennis family brought against him.  In the section of that filing titled “Statement of Material Facts” there’s this paragraph:</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p>Toward the end of class, Mr. Freshwater asked whether anybody wanted to see what the tesla coil felt like. <em>Id. at 142</em>. James testified that he was the last of five or so students to go up to the front of the class to have the tesla coil applied to him. <em>Id. at 142-143</em>. Prior to going up to have the tesla coil applied to him, James watched the other students get the tesla coil applied to their arm. <em>Id. at 144</em>. James witnessed the electric charge touch the other students’ skin. <em>Id. at 145</em>  The application of the tesla coil on the other students was similar to the application that happened to James.  James volunteered by approaching Mr. Freshwater in the front of the class and placed his right arm on an overhead projector. <em>Id. at 146-147</em>. Mr. Freshwater used his left wrist and laid it on top of James’ right wrist and Mr. Freshwater took his right hand to guide the tesla coil on James’ arm making two horizontal lines and two vertical lines. <em>Id. at 147-148</em>. The application of the tesla coil on James skin lasted around five seconds. <em>Id. at 148</em>. The application of the tesla coil on James’ skin was similar to a “static shock” and “kind of burned a little bit and itchy.” <em>Id. at 151-153</em>.</p>

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<p>In other words, while in his deposition Freshwater denied the accuracy of Zachary’s hearing testimony, in the motion for summary judgment it is described exactly as Zachary told it.  In fact, the motion’s description of the process is drawn from Zachary’s deposition in the case – the <em>Id</em>s refer to that deposition.  So Freshwater’s attorneys in the federal suit accept Zachary’s version for purposes of asking for dismissal of the battery claim.  (Incidentally, Zachary’s version was also at least partly corroborated by <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/11/freshwater-oct.html" rel="">another student in that class</a>.)</p>

<p>I will freely grant that eyewitness testimony is far from the best evidence regardless of the deference the U.S. legal system gives it.  I will also freely grant that human memory is subject to many vicissitudes.  Nevertheless I find the contradictions and inconsistencies fascinating, just as a slow-motion train wreck is fascinating.
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    <title>Comfort&apos;s Tract Meet</title>
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    <id>tag:pandasthumb.org,2009://2.4472</id>

    <published>2009-11-18T23:36:37Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-18T23:36:37Z</updated>

    <summary>Ray Comfort starting handing out his bastardization of the Origin today. A day earlier than expected. If any of our readers witnessed it, please feel free to describe your experiences in a comment....</summary>
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        <name>Reed A. Cartwright</name>
        <uri>http://dererumnatura.us/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>Ray Comfort starting handing out his <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/11/comfortcameron.html" rel="">bastardization</a> of the <em>Origin</em> today.  A day earlier than expected.</p>

<p>If any of our readers witnessed it, please feel free to describe your experiences in a comment.</p>

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<entry>
    <title>Seventh-Day Adventists split over evolution?</title>
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    <published>2009-11-18T08:09:31Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-18T08:09:31Z</updated>

    <summary>Via John Pieret’s excellent Thoughts in a Haystack blog I learn of an ongoing controversy about the teaching of evolution at Adventist Universities. (See also this Sept. 1 article from Inside Higher Ed.) The latest event is that the board of trustess of La Sierra University in Riverside, California, voted to endorse young-earth creationism: La Sierra’s board of trustees last week unanimously voted to endorse Adventist beliefs that the world was created in six 24-hour...</summary>
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        <name>Nick Matzke</name>
        <uri>http://www.talkdesign.org</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>Via John Pieret’s excellent <a href="http://dododreams.blogspot.com/2009/11/putting-on-dogma-and-pony-show.html" rel="external ">Thoughts in a Haystack blog</a> I learn of an ongoing controversy about the teaching of evolution at Adventist Universities.  (See also this Sept. 1 article from <a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/09/01/evolution" rel="external ">Inside Higher Ed</a>.)  The latest event is that the board of trustess of La Sierra University in Riverside, California, <a href="http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_lasierra18.2f5fedb.html" rel="external ">voted to endorse young-earth creationism</a>:</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p>La Sierra’s board of trustees last week unanimously voted to endorse Adventist beliefs that the world was created in six 24-hour days and said the teaching of evolution must be “within the context of the Adventist belief regarding creation.”</p>

<p>The board also proposed that all 15 North American Adventist universities develop a curriculum that includes a “scientifically rigorous affirmation” of Adventist creation beliefs.
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<p>At first glance, it is confusing that this is news.  Those of us who are familiar with the history of creationism and have read Ronald Numbers’ classic <em>The Creationists</em>, and learned that the Seventh-Day Adventists were virtually the only fundamentalists who produced major advocates supporting belief in a young earth and global flood in the early 20<sup>th</sup> century – based on the literalist visions of Adventist founder and prophetess Ellen White.  It was only in the 1960s that the young-earth/global view became dominant within American fundamentalism/conservative evangelicalism in general, primarily through the efforts of Henry Morris and John Whitcomb in <em>The Genesis Flood</em>.</p>

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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>Due to the above, it would be natural to assume that if anyone dependably takes a stauch YEC position, it would be the Seventh Day Adventists.  The Adventists and their <a href="http://www.grisda.org/" rel="external ">Geoscience Research Center</a> supplied most of the creationist expert witnesses in the 1981 <em>McLean vs. Arkansas</em> trial, and the official position of the church seems to be unambiguous.  <a href="http://www.educatetruth.com/articles/blogs/david-asscherick-talks-about-his-letter-to-the-gc/" rel="external ">As one Adventist writes</a>,</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p>The point is not whether or not Darwinian evolution is true (I don’t believe it is, but that is another issue altogether). The point is an ecclesiastical one, not a scientific one: Like it or not (and I take it that Ron doesn’t like it), the official, endorsed, published, voted, endorsed, sanctioned, (add your own synonyms here _____________) position of the world-wide Seventh-day Adventist Church is that the Genesis creation account is to be literally understood as communicating an actual, literal, solar Six Day Creation.</p>

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<p>Open-and-shut case, yes?  Well, apparently some of the professors at La Sierra haven’t been reading the history or doctrinal statements, and have been treating evolution in a less-than-completely-hostile fashion.  An example <a href="http://www.educatetruth.com/la-sierra-evidence/class-syllabus-from-la-sierra-biology-department-chair/" rel="external ">posted online is the syllabus of Bio112</a>, which is 1/3 devoted to evolution and contains a fairly strong statement that students need to learn about the evidence for evolution, whether or not they decide to believe it.  This article gives the “dirt” on <a href="http://www.educatetruth.com/articles/la-sierra-promotes-evolution/" rel="external ">four La Sierra biology profs</a> that apparently defiantly teach evolution. This has got some La Sierra graduate and Adventist named Shane Hilde so annoyed that he has launched a petition drive and website (it’s a big and detailed website, <a href="http://www.educatetruth.com" rel="external "><a href="http://www.educatetruth.com/" rel="external ">http://www.educatetruth.com/</a></a>) with the goal of cracking down on evolution at SDA universities.  </p>

<p>Hilde’s campaign seems to be working.  The board of trustees decision at La Sierra is any indication, it seems to be working.  Another indication comes from an October article by Hilde:</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p>One has to wonder why LSU refuses to be transparent. As the veil is being pulled back, some parents are realizing LSU is not the place for their children. One such parent, Karen McPherson, said: “My daughter went to La Sierra. When I discovered they were teaching naturalistic evolution – I transferred her to Pacific Union College. The transfer was for this reason alone!”</p>

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<p>This passage is…interesting.  Apparently McPherson thinks that PUC (an Adventist school in the hills of the wine country just 1 hour north of San Francisco) is a resolutely YEC school.  I thought so also, until I visited it in 2006.  Here’s the story.</p>

<p>In 2006, Wes Elsberry and I were invited to come to PUC and debate evolution for part of a student-organized speaker series.  We were initially hesitant, since we are generally skeptical of debating creationists.  However, after some discussion with the organizers, we grudgingly signed up, since it seemed like there was some chance for a reasonable discussion rather than just a Gish-gallop debate.  Wes and I drove up to PUC – but, aware of the YECiness of Adventists, we went in as armed to the teeth as academics can be, with huge powerpoint files solely devoted to putting evidence for the age of the earth and common ancestry as bluntly and non-deniably as possible.  When I spoke, I popped the slides up one-by-one and used the basic refrain, “Here are the hard facts.  If this evidence has been hidden from you before now by your teachers and professors, you should ask yourself why.”  It was pretty much a go-in-with-blazing-guns strategy.</p>

<p>However, as the discussion ensued, the students, and some of the professors, had some news for me.  “You’ve got us all wrong,” they said.  “We’re not all old-fashioned young-earth creationists and anti-evolutionists here, that’s an old stereotype about Adventists.” (Note: this is not a direct quote, rather it is just the gist of what I remember hearing.)  Subsequent discussion indicated that many of the students &amp; profs were reasonably well-informed about evolution and not really skeptical of it.  After some interesting chats, Wes and I drove home, shaking our heads and commenting that if Seventh Day Adventists were becoming OK with evolution, we should keep our eyes open for flying pigs and freezing hells.</p>

<p>So, anyway, the point is: watch out Hilde &amp; McPherson!  It looks like Pacific Union College isn’t safe, either!  Light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks!</p>

<p>(The other point is: even if the claims in the movie <em>Expelled</em> were true, which they aren’t, they still don’t add up to anything like the campaigns that have been waged against supporters of mainstream science at fundamentalist colleges.  Such things have been going on since the 1800s at evagelical schools; it has just taken until the 21<sup>st</sup> century for the Adventist schools to catch up.)</p>

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    <title>Delicate Arch</title>
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    <id>tag:pandasthumb.org,2009://2.4470</id>

    <published>2009-11-16T18:00:00Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-14T22:08:19Z</updated>

    <summary>Photograph by David Collins. Photography contest, Honorable Mention. Delicate Arch – an Entrada Sandstone formation in Arches National Park, near Moab, Utah....</summary>
    <author>
        <name>Matt Young</name>
        <uri>http://www.mines.edu/~mmyoung</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>Photograph by <strong>David Collins</strong>.</p>

<p>Photography contest, Honorable Mention.</p>

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    <title>Comfort/Cameron Darwin giveaway -- all hat and no cattle?</title>
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    <id>tag:pandasthumb.org,2009://2.4469</id>

    <published>2009-11-14T18:35:19Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-14T20:57:46Z</updated>

    <summary>For some reason or other I got on the email list of Ray Comfort’s mailing list. What can I say, I am a connoisseur of the weird. As I’ve learned a little bit about Comfort’s ministry, I have been beginning to wonder – is this whole “Darwin giveaway” thing actually going to happen? Or is it mostly imaginary – primarily a fundraising stunt? I have seen lots of evidence that Comfort et al. are good...</summary>
    <author>
        <name>Nick Matzke</name>
        <uri>http://www.talkdesign.org</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>For some reason or other I got on the email list of Ray Comfort’s mailing list.  What can I say, I am a connoisseur of the weird.  As I’ve learned a little bit about Comfort’s ministry, I have been beginning to wonder – is this whole “Darwin giveaway” thing actually going to happen?  Or is it mostly imaginary – primarily a fundraising stunt?  I have seen lots of evidence that Comfort et al. are good at publicity and producing videos – but no evidence that they are strong on the ground.  If they were actually organized to distribute hundreds of thousands of books on hundreds of campuses, I kind of think there would be more evidence of that organization.  But there is virtually no such evidence, despite there being plenty of fundamentalist student groups on campuses that might serve as the foot soldiers for this sort of thing.  </p>

<p>Here’s the latest odd thing along these lines – </p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p><strong>PRESS RELEASE - 5 of 7 - Militant Atheists Seek Details</strong></p>

<p>Militant Atheists Seek Details of Darwin Book Giveaway</p>

<p>When 170,000 copies of Charles Darwin’s On the Origin of Species with Ray Comfort’s Introduction are given away at universities around the country, atheists plan to be waiting for them. But they don’t know the identity of the universities the books will be given out. Comfort said. “The reason atheists are finding nothing is because every school that is being visited is a closely guarded secret. We don’t want to cause a disturbance. We simply want to get books into the hands of students across the country.” Others advised those who see the books being handed out said, “Cut out the intro in front of them, leave it on the table and take the book.” Another said, “Get them to sign [the] book, thank them, and then make some devastating point that will shatter them forever.” See <a href="http://www.livingwaters.com/origin" rel="external ">http://www.livingwaters.com/origin</a> “Press kit” for textual, audio, and video sound bites.</p>

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<p>What?  The list of schools being visited is a closely-guarded secret?  Then why what it on their website at one point (if I recall correctly – <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/11/ray_comfort_replies_to_eugenie.php#comment-2043608" rel="external ">here’s a copy from September</a>), and <a href="http://www.wikio.com/video/1693389" rel="external ">why did they proudly announce in the original video</a> that the top 50 American universities would be targeted?  In that video, they also said they were working with Campus Crusade, Answers in Genesis, and the Alliance Defense Fund – but I haven’t heard anything about the Origin-into-schools project from those groups.</p>

<p>Anyway, it doesn’t make much sense and I don’t have any firsthand information, but at the moment I’m wondering if this Origin-into-schools thing will poke above the background noise of random crazies who hand out stuff on the quads of college campuses every day. (You can be sure, though, that there will be one place with Ray Comfort and his camera crew, since in some arenas, a video is worth more than 1,000,000 words and 1,000 on-the-ground volunteers.)</p>

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    <title>Iowa School Board Ousts Intelligent Design</title>
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/11/iowa-school-boa.html" />
    <id>tag:pandasthumb.org,2009://2.4468</id>

    <published>2009-11-10T16:39:00Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-10T16:39:00Z</updated>

    <summary>I’ve received a letter from Iowa written by Dr. Hector Avalos, which, I think, may be of interest to many readers of this blog. In his letter Dr. Avalos reports about a defeat of ID advocates in one of the school boards in Iowa. The full text of Dr. Avalos’s letter can be seen here. I hope most of the PT’s denizens will join me in expressing our gratitude to Dr. Avalos for his letter....</summary>
    <author>
        <name>Mark Perakh</name>
        <uri>www.nctimes.net/~mark/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>I’ve received a letter from Iowa written by Dr. Hector Avalos, which, I think, may be of interest to many readers of this blog. In his letter Dr. Avalos reports about a defeat of ID advocates in one of the school boards in Iowa. The full text of Dr. Avalos’s letter can be seen <a href="http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Iowa.cfm" rel="external ">here</a>.  
I hope most of the PT’s denizens will join me in expressing our gratitude to Dr. Avalos for his letter. </p>

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    <title>Turdus migratorius</title>
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    <id>tag:pandasthumb.org,2009://2.4322</id>

    <published>2009-11-09T18:00:00Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-01T17:33:18Z</updated>

    <summary> Turdus migratorius – American robin, feathering his nest....</summary>
    <author>
        <name>Matt Young</name>
        <uri>http://www.mines.edu/~mmyoung</uri>
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<div class="kw-figure" style=" width:606px;"><div class="kw-figure-img"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Robin" rel="external "><img src="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/07/06/Nest.JPG" alt="Nest.JPG" width="600" height="427" /></a></div><p><big><em>Turdus migratorius</em> – American robin, feathering his nest.</big>
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    <title>One of the (many) things that drive me bats</title>
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    <id>tag:pandasthumb.org,2009://2.4467</id>

    <published>2009-11-09T06:47:35Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-09T06:52:17Z</updated>

    <summary>From Nova’s Becoming Human, Part 1 at -9:00 (Nova uses a countdown timer). Discussing the hypothesis that short-term (hundreds to thousands of years) extreme climate variability drove human evolution, and particularly increases in brain size, in the ramp-up from 400 cc or so to Homo habilis’s 600 or 700 cc, and maybe on to larger brained successors, the film says: Narrator: “This observation led [Rick Potts] to an amazing new idea: Rapid [climate] change as...</summary>
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        <name>Richard B. Hoppe</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>From Nova’s <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolution/becoming-human-part-1.html" rel="external ">Becoming Human, Part 1</a> at -9:00 (Nova uses a countdown timer).  Discussing the hypothesis that short-term (hundreds to thousands of years) extreme climate variability drove human evolution, and particularly increases in brain size, in the ramp-up from 400 cc or so  to <em>Homo habilis’s</em> 600 or 700 cc, and maybe on to larger brained successors, the film says:</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p><br />
Narrator:  “This observation led [Rick Potts] to an amazing new idea:  Rapid [climate] change as a catalyst for our evolution.”<br />
Rick Potts:  “And I began to think that well maybe it’s not the particular environment of a savanna that was important, but the tendency of the environment to change.”</p>

<p>[Here it is]</p>

<p>Narrator:  “Could it be that the need to survive violent swings of climate made our ancestors more adaptable?”</p>



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<p>Right.  And it was the need of giraffes to reach higher branches with yummier leaves that made them grow longer f***ing necks.  Gaaaaah!!!  Lamarck is <em><strong>dead</strong></em>!  And so is Bergson.</p>

<p>That locution, that phraseology, that notion that a “need” somehow drives evolution, drives me bats.  “Needs” don’t make populations evolve anything.  Now, properties of an environment may select for traits in a population if appropriate variants occur, and as a result of that selective process the population may be more adapted to that selective environment.  And it’s not necessarily implausible that an environment that varies irregularly on an appropriate time grain (bunches of generations) could select for some sort of generalized adaptability on the part of a population provided there’s some genetic basis for that adaptability that gives individuals a reproductive advantage, but a “need” doesn’t “make” the trait evolve.  If that were the case we’d have wings and gills.</p>

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    <title>Don&apos;t Diss Darwin</title>
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/11/dont-diss-darwi.html" />
    <id>tag:pandasthumb.org,2009://2.4466</id>

    <published>2009-11-07T01:27:14Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-07T01:28:57Z</updated>

    <summary>As everyone in the science blogosphere knows by now, banana man Ray Comfort, he who cannot understand sex, is planning to distribute on the order of 170,000 (his claim) copies of Darwin’s On the Origin of Species in late November on various U.S. and Canadian university campuses. The book is prefaced by an introduction (2 Meg PDF) by Ray that contains the standard creationist argle bargle. NCSE has created a page in response called Don’t...</summary>
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        <name>Richard B. Hoppe</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>As everyone in the science blogosphere knows by now, banana man Ray Comfort, he who cannot understand sex, is planning to distribute on the order of 170,000 (his claim) copies of Darwin’s <em>On the Origin of Species</em> in late November on various U.S. and Canadian university campuses.  The book is prefaced by <a href="http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf" rel="external ">an introduction</a> (2 Meg PDF) by Ray that contains the standard creationist argle bargle.  </p>

<p>NCSE has created a page in response called <a href="http://ncse.com/dont-diss-darwin" rel="external ">Don’t Diss Darwin</a> that has a variety of resources and suggestions.  It has an appropriate flier, posters, and a lovely banana bookmark ready for downloading.</p>

<p>Most important for our immediate purposes, it contains a list of universities currently targeted.  That list is reproduced below the fold.  (I note that Lehigh is on the list; I wonder if Michael Behe will avail himself of the opportunity to learn some evolution.)</p>

<p>I urge scientists and interested folks on the infected campuses to seek immunization from the NCSE page.</p>

<p><em>Hat tip to <a href="http://www.flascience.org/wp/" rel="external ">Florida Citizens for Science.</a></em></p>

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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>US (19 Nov)</p>

<p>   1. Princeton University (NJ)<br />
   2. Harvard University (MA)<br />
   3. Yale University (CT)<br />
   4. Stanford University (CA)<br />
   5. University of Pennsylvania (PA)<br />
   6. California Institute of Technology<br />
   7. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MA)<br />
   8. Duke University (NC)<br />
   9. Columbia University (NY)<br />
  10. University of Chicago (IL)<br />
  11. Dartmouth College (NH)<br />
  12. Washington University in St. Louis (MO)<br />
  13. Cornell University (NY)<br />
  14. Brown University (RI)<br />
  15. Northwestern University (IL)<br />
  16. Johns Hopkins University (MD)<br />
  17. Rice University (TX)<br />
  18. Emory University (GA)<br />
  19. Vanderbilt University (TN)<br />
  20. Notre Dame (IN)<br />
  21. University of California - Berkeley (CA)<br />
  22. Carnegie Mellon University (PA)<br />
  23. University of Virginia (VA)<br />
  24. Georgetown University (DC)<br />
  25. University of California–Los Angeles (CA)<br />
  26. University of Michigan–Ann Arbor<br />
  27. University of Southern California (CA)<br />
  28. University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill (NC)<br />
  29. Tufts University (MA)<br />
  30. Wake Forest University (NC)<br />
  31. Lehigh University (PA)<br />
  32. Brandeis University (MA)<br />
  33. College of William and Mary (VA)<br />
  34. New York University (NY)<br />
  35. University of Rochester (NY)<br />
  36. Georgia Institute of Technology (GA)<br />
  37. Boston College (MA)<br />
  38. University of Wisconsin–Madison (WI)<br />
  39. University of California–San Diego (CA)<br />
  40. University of Illinois–Urbana - Champaign (IL)<br />
  41. Case Western Reserve University (OH)<br />
  42. University of Washington (WA)<br />
  43. University of California–Davis (CA)<br />
  44. Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (NY)<br />
  45. University of Texas–Austin (TX)<br />
  46. University of California–Santa Barbara (CA)<br />
  47. University of California–Irvine (CA)<br />
  48. Penn State University–University Park (PA)<br />
  49. University of Florida (FL)<br />
  50. Syracuse University (NY)</p>



<p>Canada (24 Nov)</p>

<p>   1. Ottawa University - Ottawa ON<br />
   2. Carleton University - Ottawa ON<br />
   3. Queen’s University - Kingston ON<br />
   4. University of Toronto - Toronto ON<br />
   5. York University - Toronto ON<br />
   6. McMaster University - Hamilton ON<br />
   7. Guelph University - Guelph ON<br />
   8. Brock University - St. Catharines ON<br />
   9. U of Western Ontario - London ON<br />
  10. Concordia University - Montreal PQ<br />
  11. McGill University - Montreal PQ<br />
  12. U of New Brunswick - Fredericton / Saint John NB<br />
  13. Memorial U of Newfoundland - St. John’s NL<br />
  14. Dalhousie University - Halifax NS<br />
  15. University of Manitoba - Winnipeg MB<br />
  16. U of Saskatchewan - Saskatoon<br />
  17. University of Alberta - Edmonton AB<br />
  18. University of Calgary - Calgary AB<br />
  19. Simon Fraser University - Vancouver BC<br />
  20. U of British Columbia - Vancouver BC<br />
  21. University of Victoria - Victoria BC </p>



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    <title>Freshwater: Oct 30, 2009</title>
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/11/freshwater-oct.html" />
    <id>tag:pandasthumb.org,2009://2.4465</id>

    <published>2009-11-06T04:47:57Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-06T04:56:59Z</updated>

    <summary>This was the last of three October hearing sessions. The next sessions are scheduled for November 17-19. The highlight of today was testimony by Taylor Strack, a student in Freshwater’s class, who corroborated Zach Dennis’ testimony about how the students’ arms were positioned and what stopped the shock that Freshwater was supplying via the Tesla coil. Taylor Strack Direct testimony Taylor Strack was a student in the 8th grade science class at the time the...</summary>
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        <name>Richard B. Hoppe</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>This was the last of three October hearing sessions.  The next sessions are scheduled for November 17-19.</p>

<p>The highlight of today was testimony by Taylor Strack, a student in Freshwater’s class, who corroborated Zach Dennis’ testimony about how the students’ arms were positioned and what stopped the shock that Freshwater was supplying via the Tesla coil.</p>

<p><strong>Taylor Strack Direct testimony</strong></p>

<p>Taylor Strack was a student in the 8<sup>th</sup> grade science class at the time the alleged burning of Zachary Dennis’ arm occurred, and she saw the procedure followed.  That came out in cross examination; first is her direct testimony by R. Kelly Hamilton, Freshwater’s attorney.
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>Some time prior to her testimony Hamilton showed Taylor the “Watchmaker” video that Kerri Mahan had <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/11/freshwater-day-1.html" rel="">once testified</a> was shown in  Freshwater’s science class (see <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/11/freshwater-octo-1.html#more" rel="">here for her latest version</a>).  Taylor testified that she had not seen the video before Hamilton showed it to her.  She had never been to FCA.</p>

<p>She testified that she was in class the day Freshwater demonstrated the Tesla coil.  She said that if Freshwater held a student’s arm down, he would release it.  She then said if a student said Freshwater held his arm down “they were lying.”  That was a little confused(ing) – Taylor speaks very softly and was hard to hear.  </p>

<p><strong>Interpolation from cross examination</strong></p>

<p>This got a little clearer during cross examination.  David Millstone, the Board’s attorney, had her clarify that procedure.  She testified that Freshwater asked if anyone in the class wanted to try it (being zapped).  A student would approach him at the front of the room and put an arm on the overhead projector and Freshwater would apply the arc to the arm.  She testified that if the student asked Freshwater to stop, he would stop.  That is consistent with <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/10/freshwater-hear-1.html" rel="">Zachary Dennis’ description</a> of what happened.  Overall, it’s not clear in her testimony whether Freshwater put his hand on a student’s hand on the overhead or not.  She implied both that he did and didn’t during her testimony.</p>

<p><strong>Back to direct examination</strong></p>

<p>Taylor testified that she did not hear Freshwater mention a temporary tattoo, crosses, or red marks in connection with the Tesla coil demonstration.</p>

<p>With reference to a student being zapped on the butt by Freshwater, she testified that she didn’t see it.  She heard the student give a :little shriek,” looked up and saw the student looking surprised and Freshwater smiling.  She testified she didn’t have a sense that Freshwater did it purposely.</p>

<p>She testified that Freshwater never referred to the Bible in class and didn’t hold it up.  She testified that he didn’t tell the class that the Bible explained the Big Bang.  She didn’t remember the “hydrosphere” notion being mentioned, nor any mention of Answers in Genesis.  She said he didn’t promote Easter or Good Friday in class, and didn’t mention creationism or intelligent design.  </p>

<p>She testified that another student brought up a question about how life was formed, and Freshwater described fine tuning.  The student then referred to a “higher power” and Freshwater changed the subject.  She didn’t remember “here” being used.</p>

<p>Hamilton asked what she thought of the allegations made against Mr. Freshwater.  She said that they are “… stupid.  Nobody got hurt.”</p>

<p><strong>Taylor Strack cross</strong></p>

<p>Aside from the testimony noted above regarding the procedure by which students were zapped with the Tesla coil, Taylor also testified that there was a creationism/evolution debate in class some time that year (2007-2008),  She said Freshwater made the decision to have the debate.</p>

<p>Asked about Mt. St. Helen’s, she said Freshwater did not discuss the rapid formation of coal in relation to it.  Asked by Millstone, she gave a pretty mainstream sketch of coal formation.</p>

<p>Regarding dinosaurs, she didn’t recall whether Freshwater mentioned humans and dinos living at the same time.  She did say that he said there was insufficient air pressure now for them to be that large.  </p>

<p>There was no redirect or recross.</p>

<p><strong>Finn Laursen Direct</strong></p>

<p>Finn Laursen is the executive director of <a href="http://www.ceai.org/" rel="external ">Christian Educators Association International</a> and an experienced school administrator (principal and superintendent in Ohio).  He does a good deal of lecturing and workshops on First Amendment issues in the schools.</p>

<p>His initial testimony was directed at the <a href="http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=3979" rel="external ">Finding Common Ground</a> book Daubenmire used in his two-day class at Mt. Vernon Nazarene University.  It seems to be a well regarded source for that topic.  A <a href="http://www.freedomforum.org/publications/first/findingcommonground/C01.ContactInfo.pdf" rel="external ">variety of organizations</a> (pdf), ranging from Laursen’s Christian Educators to People for the American Way, have signed on to it.</p>

<p>Laursen testified that the mere fact of a Bible on a teacher’s desk is not a First Amendment problem; that he himself had a Bible on his desk when he was an administrator.  In and of itself it does not constitute a “religious display.”   Asked what constitutes a religious display, Laursen said “It promotes religion, draws attention to a specific doctrine or belief.”</p>

<p>There was a fairly long section of testimony concerning Laursen’s interactions with Lori Miller, another teacher who had a Bible on her desk along with other devotional materials, was instructed by an administrator to remove it all, and was later allowed to put the Bible back on her desk.  (See <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/03/freshwater-day-10.html" rel="">here</a> and below for this Keystone Kops sequence.)  In summary, Laursen advised Miller, who is a member of his association, that it was legal to have a Bible on her desk, and that if the administration was trying to “cleanse” her desk she should file a grievance.  </p>

<p>Laursen testified that in his view if a school tries to “sanitize the school” from religious material, that abounts to “religious harassment,” or discrimination.</p>

<p>Asked by Hamilton about insubordination, Laursen said one had to consider history and patterns of behavior.  He would meet with the teacher (who should have representation along), clarify what is meant by insubordination, follow up, and document everything.  A successful termination, he said, depends on documentation.  In investigating a situation one would talk with as many people involved as possible.</p>

<p>Asked about the mandatory reporting requirement for suspected cases of abuse, Laursen said that the school – teachers and administrators – <em>must</em> report.  They do not have discretion in the matter.  Asked if a parent reported an injury to a student caused b a teacher, but didn’t want the teacher to go to jail, Laursen said it is not up to the school to make that decision–the incident must be reported.  Asked what one should do if he doubted to reliability of the allegation, Laursen said it is still reportable.</p>

<p>Laursen said that he would immediately talk to the people directly involved, especially the teacher as soon as possible after the parent(s) left his office.</p>

<p>Asked by Hamilton, Laursen testified that teachers in public schools “absolutely” have academic freedom.  This wasn’t pursued, so we don’t know what “academic freedom” means in Laursen’s response.</p>

<p>FInally, Laursen testified that it was all right if FCA materials were stored in a teacher’s classroom.</p>

<p><strong>Laursen Cross</strong></p>

<p>On cross examination Laursen testified that it was appropriate to refer to the Bible in English and history classes where it was relevant to the topic under discussion.  Asked about applications in math classes, he replied “None that come to mind.”  Millstone asked, “How about Numbers?”  A good laugh was had by all.</p>

<p>In answer to questions, Laursen said it was inappropriate to teach creationism, but that with respect to intelligent design it depends on “what is considered to be intelligent design.”  “If there’s some science that doesn’t line up with evolution that would be appropriate.”  Asked about the relevance of <em>Kitzmiller</em> to that remark, Laursen said <em>Kitzmiller</em> was decided on intent.  Asked about whether intelligent design was shown to be equivalent to creationism in <em>Kitzmiller</em>, Laursen replied “In the ruling, yes.”</p>

<p>Asked whether a collage of 10 Commandments posters constituted a religious display, if there were no other such material, <em>e.g.</em>, Hammurabi’s Code or some such present, Laursen testified that it could be inappropriate, “depending on the purpose.”</p>

<p>That ended Laursen’s cross; there was no redirect (except for another “Numbers” joke) or recross.</p>

<p><strong>Patricia Dice testimony</strong></p>

<p>Patricia Dice is a teacher in the Mt. Vernon school system, and accompanied Lori Miller to the meeting with middle school Assistant Principal Ritchie and Principal White (<a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/03/freshwater-day-10.html" rel="">following Miller’s earlier testimony</a> in this hearing) at which Miller was told she could keep her Bible on her desk so long as it wasn’t opened in the presence of students.  The meeting was very short, on the order of 5-7 minutes, according to Dice.  Dice kept notes and summarized them in a note to Miller that was introduced into evidence.  Dice included a paragraph from the district’s policy on religion in the classroom in her note, though that wasn’t referenced in the meeting. m The policy says that religious materials are not to be displayed at any time.</p>

<p>Referring to Dice’s jewelry (recall this was the Friday before Halloween) Hamilton asked if the jewelry – earrings and a necklace of plastic skulls – promoted paganism.  She said, “no.”</p>

<p>There was no cross examination.</p>

<p><strong>Lori Miller testimony</strong></p>

<p>There was some discussion about whether Miller could testify, having <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/03/freshwater-day-10.html" rel="">already testified</a> at length early in the hearing.  The referee allowed the testimony, since it refers to events that occurred after Miller testified the first time.</p>

<p>Miller testified that four days after her earlier testimony, accompanied by another teacher, Bill Oxenford, she met with Assistant Principal Ritchie and Principal White and was instructed to remove all religious materials, including her Bible, from students’ sight.  She then contacted Finn Laursen, who advised her to look into the grievance process.  She talked to Karen Seward, president of the union (MVEA), who told her she (Seward) would contact the OEA regional labor relations consultant.  Miller called Laursen again, and he referred her to “Liberty Center.”  I suspect, but do not know, that she meant <a href="http://www.lc.org/index.cfm?pid=14096" rel="external ">Liberty Counsel</a>, which is associated with the <a href="http://law.liberty.edu/" rel="external ">Liberty University School of Law.</a>.  That in turn is associated with Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University.</p>

<p>Miller testified that she had trouble inducing the union to take action, and that Seward and the consultant, Jeff Kesner, told her it wasn’t a grievable issue and that she should let it go.</p>

<p>Then the Liberty Center (Counsel?) told her to get clarification from the administration, the first step in the grievance process.  That’s when she had the second meeting with Ritchie and White at which Dice was present.  She recorded that meeting, as she had an earlier meeting with administrators, though this time the recording was not surreptitious.  The recording shows the meeting to have lasted less than two minutes.  Asked directly by Miller, White told her she could have a Bible on her desk.</p>

<p>Hamilton asked her about an in-service in August, 2009, on religion in the classroom led by David Millstone (the Board’s attorney) and another attorney from a Columbus law firm.  She testified that at one point in Millstone’s Powerpoint presentation there was a slide with </p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p>May a teacher keep a Bible on his or her desk?</p>

<p>Courts have found it impermissible to keep a Bible on the desk when it is used for other than secular purposes.</p>



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<p>Miller testified that there was then a slide with a large NO on it.  </p>

<p>Finally, Miller testified that after the in-service she still didn’t understand the policy.</p>

<p><strong>Miller Cross</strong></p>

<p>Millstone produced a printout of the powerpoint show, and there is no such “NO” slide.  (I have the actual .ppt file, and there’s no such slide in it.)   Asked about the discrepancy, Miller said that she couldn’t remember where she saw it, or maybe she didn’t see a slide but just heard it said.</p>

<p>There was no redirect or recross.</p>

<p>That ended the testimony for the day.  Another witness had been scheduled by Hamilton, but <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">the dog ate his homework</span> he forgot to bring his notes on the questions he wanted to ask the witness so the session was adjourned early.</p>

<p>Finally, I have to relate an anecdote that occurred Wednesday, when David Daubenmire was testifying.  I didn’t hear it – I had to leave for a physician’s appointment – but another spectator did and posted it on a <a href="http://www.mvohio.net/index.php?topic=8793.msg322616#msg322616" rel="external ">local web board</a>:</p>

<blockquote class="kw-quote"><div class="kw-quote-body"><p>At Wednesday’s hearing last week during a break, Mrs. Daubenmire was speaking with Levi Stickle.  I thought I caught what she said to him but I wanted to be sure so I asked her to repeat her comment.  She stated to me that she asked Levi who at the hearing “was good and who was bad”. </p>

<p>Obviously someone attending the hearing for the first time might want to know who is supporting John Freshwater, who is not but to twist it to “who is good, who is bad” speaks volumes about how Mrs. Daubenmire views those who don’t agree with the Freshwater agenda.  I wonder how her husband feels about the subject?  I think I can guess.</p>

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    <title>Postmodernism versus Religion</title>
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    <published>2009-11-04T21:52:06Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-04T21:52:06Z</updated>

    <summary>The Education Life supplement of last Sunday’s New York Times contained a little blurb that claimed college students who majored in the humanities and social sciences were apt to become less religiously observant after college. According to the Times, you may credit or blame postmodernism because it stresses that truth is relative rather than absolute. Small solace, as far as I am concerned....</summary>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>The Education Life supplement of last Sunday’s <em>New York Times</em> contained a little <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/education/01god-t.html" rel="external ">blurb</a> that claimed college students who majored in the humanities and social sciences were apt to become less religiously observant after college.  According to the <em>Times</em>, you may credit or blame postmodernism because it stresses that truth is relative rather than absolute. Small solace, as far as I am concerned.</p>

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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>The research, by Miles Kimball, a professor of economics at the University of Michigan,  was supported by the <a href="http://www.templeton.org/funding_areas/core_themes/spiritual_development/10859.html" rel="external ">Templeton Foundation</a>, but the link to the final report gave an error. The study is described in somewhat more detail by a <a href="http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/554850/" rel="external ">press release</a> emitted by the University of Michigan.  I could find no link to the study on Kimball’s <a href="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mkimball/pdf/index.html" rel="external ">home page</a>.</p>

<p>According to the press release, Kimball and his colleagues studied a cohort of people who had graduated from high school between 1976 and 1996. They asked questions regarding attendance at religious services, the importance of religion, and how religious organizations benefit the country. They found that humanities and social science majors generally became less religious, physical and biological science majors remained unchanged, and education majors apt to become more religiously observant. </p>

<p>Kimball commented, “Education majors are clearly safe havens for the religious. Highly religious people seem to prefer education majors, tend to stay in that major, and tend to become more religious by the time they graduate.” If he is right, it is not good news for those who want to keep religion out of the public schools.</p>

<p>The <em>Times</em> article also provided an interesting comparison. Define the difference in religious observance between the Bible Belt and the rest of the country as 100. On that scale, the effect of majoring in a given subject is given by</p>

<p>Social science, -47 <br />
Humanities, -28<br />
Physical science/math, -24<br />
Engineering, -14<br />
Biology, -13<br />
No college, 0<br />
Business, +2<br />
Other, +10<br />
Vocational, +16<br />
Education, +23<br /></p>

<p>The progression from the sciences to the humanities, incidentally, is roughly consistent with what we <a href=" http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/07/post-29.html" rel="">reported earlier</a>.</p>

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    <title>New Nova Series, Evolution Website</title>
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    <published>2009-11-03T22:22:40Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-03T22:22:40Z</updated>

    <summary>First things first. The 3-part series is called Becoming Human, and it begins tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern time (and 7 p.m. my time, so check your local schedule). The website, which is in a beta edition right now, is called simply “Evolution.” Today, it features articles on Becoming Human, Evo-Devo, and The Evolution of Motherhood, among others. It looks as though a regular feature will include links to recent news articles, and there are...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>First things first. The 3-part series is called <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolution/becoming-human-part-1.html" rel="external ">Becoming Human</a>, and it begins tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern time (and 7 p.m. my time, so check your local schedule).</p>

<p>The <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolution/" rel="external ">website</a>, which is in a beta edition right now, is called simply “Evolution.” Today, it features articles on Becoming Human, Evo-Devo, and The Evolution of Motherhood, among others. It looks as though a regular feature will include links to recent news articles, and there are also links to apparently original material by Neil Shubin, Sean Carroll, and Carl Zimmer. There are additional links to a number of relevant books and websites. Finally, you can watch “Intelligent Design on Trial” and “Darwin’s Darkest Hour” just by following links prominently displayed on the “Evolution” website.</p>

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    <title>Sean Carroll live web talk</title>
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    <published>2009-11-03T01:22:42Z</published>
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    <summary>As part of a year-long Darwin Lecture Series, evo-devo guy Sean Carroll will be giving a webcast talk based around his Making of the Fittest. The talk is on Wednesday, November 4, and you can sign up for the live webcast here....</summary>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>As part of a year-long Darwin Lecture Series, evo-devo guy  Sean Carroll will be giving a webcast talk based around his <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Making-Fittest-Ultimate-Forensic-Evolution/dp/0393061639/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1257211131&amp;sr=1-1" rel="external ">Making of the Fittest</a>.  The talk is on Wednesday, November 4, and you can sign up for the live webcast <a href="http://darwinlecture3.eventbrite.com/" rel="external "> here</a>.</p>

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    <title>Mt. Vernon School Board Election (with results!)</title>
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    <published>2009-11-03T00:43:43Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-04T03:04:06Z</updated>

    <summary>With all precincts reporting, the two new Board of Education members are Paula Barone and Steve Thompson, who finished in what was nearly a dead heat, 3,476 votes for Barone and 3,477 votes for Thompson, or 25% each. The two incumbents, Watson (19.6%) and Hughes (7.4%) , came in 4th and 5th, respectively, with Robert Kirk in third place with 23%. It’s a little hard to interpret this outcome. On the one hand, the two...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[<div class="kw-format"><p>With all precincts reporting, the two new Board of Education members are Paula Barone and Steve Thompson, who finished in what was nearly a dead heat, 3,476 votes for Barone and 3,477 votes for Thompson, or 25% each.  The two incumbents, Watson (19.6%) and Hughes (7.4%) , came in 4<sup>th</sup> and 5<sup>th</sup>, respectively, with Robert Kirk in third place with 23%. </p>

<p>It’s a little hard to interpret this outcome.  On the one hand, the two incumbents (Watson and Hughes) were defeated, but on the other hand the ‘ticket’ of Thompson and Kirk, who closely associated themselves in the campaign, was split.  From the point of view of the handling of the Freshwater affair the results are inconclusive.  Barone was perceived as supporting the Board’s handling, and in fact her son Joe <a href="http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/01/freshwater-day-3.html" rel="">testified for the Board</a> in the administrative hearing and Paula addressed a Board of Education meeting about it last year.  So I can’t clearly interpret it in either direction if it’s taken as a referendum on the issue of Freshwater’s situation.  If one adds what might be crudely interpreted as the pro- <em>vs.</em> anti-Freshwater vote (Thompson+Kirk <em>vs</em> Barone+Watson+Hughes), the split is 48% pro to 52% anti.  That’s torturing the data a fair amount–“pro” and “anti” are crude designations and there were other issues in the campaign.  But it’s suggestive of the kind of split there is in the community.</p>

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<p>Mt. Vernon voters elect two members of the five-member Board of Education tomorrow, and I’ll be very interested to see the results.  Two incumbents, current Board President Ian Watson and Steve Hughes, are running, as are Paula Barone, a former teacher and Mt. Vernon City Council member; Steve Thompson, a vice president in a major local company; and Robert Kirk, an administrator at the Knox County Career Center (formerly Joint Vocational School).  To the extent that the election is interpreted as a referendum on the handling of the Freshwater situation, Watson, Hughes, and Barone are generally perceived as supporting the current Board’s actions and Thompson and Kirk are seen as opposing the current Board’s handling of the affair.  </p>

<p>The main publicly debated issue in the election is finances, with Thompson and Kirk charging fiscal mismanagement on the part of the current Board and Watson in particular <a href="http://www.knoxpages.com/?NewsID=7530&amp;CatID=1" rel="external ">defending the record</a> of the current Board.</p>

<p>Thompson and Kirk are out-spending the others by a large margin, as much as an 8-1 margin according to mid-October filings, and there are indications that the disparity has grown since then.  Kirk has had to <a href="http://www.knoxpages.com/?NewsID=7530&amp;CatID=1" rel="external ">return some illegal corporate donations</a> to his campaign, and questions have been raised about his having possibly commingled personal and campaign funds.    So far no official body is acting on the allegations to my knowledge.</p>

<p>I won’t venture to predict the outcome, though I know what I’m hoping for.  I’ll post an addendum to this post tomorrow night when the outcome is clear.</p>

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