The Bathroom Wall

With any tavern, one can expect that certain things that get said are out-of-place. But there is one place where almost any saying or scribble can find a home: the bathroom wall. This is where random thoughts and oddments that don’t follow the other entries at the Panda’s Thumb wind up. As with most bathroom walls, expect to sort through a lot of oyster guts before you locate any pearls of wisdom.

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There is a God!

And he is a plumber. The Bathroom has been flushed.

Thank you Reed.

Great!

Course, that still leaves what happens when the new plumbing acquires a big drip…

Wait, what am I saying?

Ingeborg Esbrandt said:

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Spammer alert!

To make one point about the previous thread. John Kwok wrote:

“Sorry Jim, but your invocation of the Ground Zero Mosque controversy is not helpful here. Incidentally there are many Muslims and Muslim Americans who oppose its construction, simply because they recognize that building it near Ground Zero is needlessly offensive to the families of the victims and the survivors of the 9/11 attack. Some of the most prominent critics - who are Muslim Americans - include Wall Street businessman Mansoor Ijaz (who tried to assist the Clinton administration in extraditing Osama bin Laden from the Sudan) and former United States Navy officer Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser.

[…]

If you are going to call Miss USA, a Muslim American, Rima Fakih, a bigot, then be my guest. Same is true for those two prominent Muslim Americans I had mentioned. Or other Muslim Americans who, like them, have spoken out against building the “Cordoba House” Islamic Center (Of course I am also against it, but am definitely not a bigot.).”

Unless YOU are a practicing Muslim your opposition to this cultural center is pure bigotry, so your saying that you’re “definitely not a bigot” is false. Your ruse of hiding behind the Muslim-Americans’ backs is the same as of the racists who think that using the n-word is OK because so many African-Americans use it. If you are a Muslim, well then, I find your views on the issue just silly, not bigoted.

Kris,

You can’t possibly know what I know.

mrg said:

DS said: Kris has certainly demonstrated that he doesn’t deserve anything more.

Actually, I was suggesting we all insult and abuse DH. If he wants to invite it, why not oblige?

We already tried that on Kris. You can only call someone an @$$hole, a bastard and crazy so many times before it gets tiresome. What’s the point of bashing me?

Kris has called me a liar for stating the obvious facts about him. We can all see what he has done, so why would he deny the stunts he has pulled? He is the one who invaded our space to attack the cause of the blog, yet he expects us to be tolerant and respectful of him no matter what he says? There is no law or principle I know that demands any such thing.

Kris said:

What you said about me is a complete lie. I didn’t start the insults and attacks. You and your asshole buddies here did. And trying to con FF with lies about me and that swill about respecting people you and they (“we”) don’t agree with is yet another one of your acts of deliberate dishonesty. You and most others here wouldn’t know what respect is if it hit you like a freight train going 60 miles per hour.

Since the statements you make about me are false, you’re a deliberate liar, according to your own standards for others. Of course your standards for yourself are completely different. How convenient for you.

The ONLY reason you and most others aren’t now viciously attacking FF is because she said she’s a woman. Even then, some of you have been pretty blunt to her, and especially rude before she said she’s a woman, even though she has been nice the whole time.

My questions to her are not an attack or a trap. They are sincere. You are grossly misrepresenting me and are just showing yourself to be the hypocritical, dishonest, delusional liar you are.

You are a seriously fucked up lunatic with delusions of godhood who needs a good ass kicking.

By the way, Mr. theological agnostic, unitarian, universalist, dis-honorable, bushido, liberal, un-scientific pseudo-skeptic, what are you going to add to or subtract from your self-created, self-serving, bogus religion tomorrow?

You just keep piling up your lies and hypocrisy Dale. You said “You do what you like, but I’m done with Kris for good.” yet you’re still bashing me and lying about me.

You also said you respect people with whom you disagree but then you say “I went after him anyway.” when you first saw me here. When I first came here I didn’t say anything that warranted you going after me.

Plus, you said you respect people with whom you disagree but then you say “I’d go after Ann Coulter if that bitch showed up here too.” So much for you respecting people you disagree with.

As usual the things you claim about yourself, and me, are false, which makes you a chronic LIAR, according to your standards for others.

You admit to slamming me a lot but of course you try to make it look like you’re a saint for doing so. Whether you or anyone else here ever accepts it or not, I’m just giving you and others shit back because you and/or they started it, either with me or someone else who didn’t or doesn’t deserve it.

I didn’t escalate the situation. You and your fellow, lying, arrogant hypocrites did.

It really cracks me up to see you guys acting exactly like some of the creationists you hate and condemn so much. You accuse and attack them for not listening and having closed minds, and for playing what you think are ridiculous games, but you do the same thing. Congratulations, you have become your enemy.

FODS

I haven’t lied about anything, you jackass! The simple fact is that you have invaded Panda’s Thumb and have been a disruptive force from the beginning and have played us like suckers. I’m not fooled by you and no one else is. Even if you were insulted by one or two people in the beginning, you could have ignored it and just responded to the ones who were being positive to you, like flowersfriend has been, but instead you started throwing shit at everyone who dared to reject your tactics. We insulted you because that seemed to be what you liked, but I get tired of that after a while. You don’t, appearantly.

If you seriously think you have made ANY positive contributions to this community here, you are even more delusional than most Creationists!

Dale Husband said: What’s the point of bashing me?

None whatsoever, but since any comments to a troll are going to produce nothing but bashing in response, that leads to what the point of the comments was.

John often fails to read for comprehension. A poor highschool education , no doubt.

Ghrom said:

To make one point about the previous thread. John Kwok wrote:

“Sorry Jim, but your invocation of the Ground Zero Mosque controversy is not helpful here. Incidentally there are many Muslims and Muslim Americans who oppose its construction, simply because they recognize that building it near Ground Zero is needlessly offensive to the families of the victims and the survivors of the 9/11 attack. Some of the most prominent critics - who are Muslim Americans - include Wall Street businessman Mansoor Ijaz (who tried to assist the Clinton administration in extraditing Osama bin Laden from the Sudan) and former United States Navy officer Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser.

[…]

If you are going to call Miss USA, a Muslim American, Rima Fakih, a bigot, then be my guest. Same is true for those two prominent Muslim Americans I had mentioned. Or other Muslim Americans who, like them, have spoken out against building the “Cordoba House” Islamic Center (Of course I am also against it, but am definitely not a bigot.).”

Unless YOU are a practicing Muslim your opposition to this cultural center is pure bigotry, so your saying that you’re “definitely not a bigot” is false. Your ruse of hiding behind the Muslim-Americans’ backs is the same as of the racists who think that using the n-word is OK because so many African-Americans use it. If you are a Muslim, well then, I find your views on the issue just silly, not bigoted.

Malchus said: A poor highschool education , no doubt.

Oh Bob, I can hear the howls now: “Set phasers to SLAUGHTER!”

Kris said:

Mike Elzinga said:

With a troll’s profile ready at hand, and with sufficient discipline on the part of the regulars, that could be cut to zero.

Profile ready at hand? What exactly does that mean Mike? Ready for what or whom? Do you have printed profiles of all the people you’ve labeled as trolls and hand them out to passersby on street corners? Or, do you create a profile file in your computer containing your intricate and exhaustive (LMAO!) calculations and determinations about each alleged troll and somehow send a copy of it to everyone on Earth to warn them of impending doom? Or, do you only dispense it to other regulars here who are able to contact you personally and who request a copy because they let you do their thinking for them?

Or, do you just think that your stupid ‘profiles’ actually matter, when in reality they actually don’t? Do you really believe that what happens on this website, or your asinine profiles, or what you do with them, matters one iota to the vast majority of the people on Earth? Get over yourself Mike.

Hey, if you have my profile handy, why don’t you post it here? I could use a good laugh.

Your “profile” is a person who needs attention and does not even try to get it by behaving in any consistent or coherent fashion. You are a manipulative jerk who takes ANY response from others and uses it as an excuse to attack. You bash us for not being tolerant enough of Creationists, while stating Creationist fallacies yourself. Then you turn around and deny being religious and question why certain others who are Creationist take their religion so seriously. Such strange behavior is pathological in the extreme.

Gee, this website seems VERY important to you, considering how much time you spend here.

You are either crazy or a fraud, Kris.

The fun thing about the BW is that the trolls either have to cave in and respond on the BW – which they don’t want to do – or pass up responding – which they REALLY don’t want to do.

Kris said:

Whatever you do, don’t even consider that when people come here and sincerely want to ask, discuss, debate, learn, and/or contribute in some way, that when they’re mercilessly insulted and attacked and erroneously lumped into your hated group of ID/creationists, they just might not like it and may fight back, and especially when they offer reasonable explanations of their words and the explanations (and the person) are ignored, misinterpreted, misrepresented, slammed, bashed, and ridiculed by you and the rest of the mindless haters here. Yeah, don’t even consider that for a second. You and the other haters and bashers here are way too perfect to have to consider such things. It’s never your fault.

Your track record is too well known here for us to consider that you are sincere about anything. You are even WORSE than the average Creationist troll because you keep going back and forth between acting non-religious and acting like a Creationist. You cannot be both, so you must be bullshitting us. Nobody here can take that seriously.

Expressed violent thoughts a number of times?? Yeah Mike, I would thoroughly enjoy kicking your ass and the asses of anyone else who has called me a liar, but I haven’t “expressed violent thoughts a number of times” in the way you’re implying. You’re the one who needs a psychiatrist, along with some others here. If you’re considered sane, I’d rather be considered crazy. And comparing me or anyone else you simply don’t agree with to a serial killer just helps show how paranoid and delusional you are.

If you don’t like being called a liar, stop being one. At least I have ALWAYS told the truth about YOU.

DH, a very minor issue here: the first part you cited above was addressed to me, and personally I find it amusing to watch such comments fall into a hole of resounding silence.

However, as far as the rest goes, carry on.

mrg said:

DH, a very minor issue here: the first part you cited above was addressed to me, and personally I find it amusing to watch such comments fall into a hole of resounding silence.

However, as far as the rest goes, carry on.

Oh, did you want to answer him here first? Be my guest. But I figured I’d just make a note of ANY inappropriate thing Kris says elsewhere and post it here, answer it here, and wait for Kris to take the hint and stop attacking us everywhere else and just slam people here.

Dale Husband said: Oh, did you want to answer him here first? Be my guest.

Why would I want to do that? But if my own rejoinder is indifference, I can at least politely ask that the effect not be spoiled.

Kris threatens: “I would thoroughly enjoy kicking your ass and the asses of anyone else who has called me a liar,…”

Lotsa bluster; everybody’s collective asses are exposed right here.

Mike Elzinga said: … everybody’s collective asses are exposed right here.

AARGH! I am so outa here!

Kris said:

Mike Elzinga said:

mrg said:

Serial killers are maybe a bit much of a comparison.

The point was the sociopathic needs of such an individual. This troll has expressed violent thoughts a number of times. But a psychiatrist would have a better handle on this that I.

I think people like attention; it’s just a question of what kind of attention. When I was the factory contact guy in my corporate life, a colleague in marketing told me that it was true I put up with a lot of abuse – I did – but added: “People thank you sometimes.”

And they did. I get thanks on occasion for my current efforts as well – not often, and maybe thanks aren’t the be-all and end-all of the effort … but on the other side of the coin, if nobody ever thanks me, what reason would I have to honestly believe what I was doing actually did anyone good?

Now take the negative mentalities that show up here … does anyone ever thank them for what they’re doing? It’s obvious it never happens, and just as obvious that they haven’t any expectation that it will.

They still want attention, and lacking any concept that they will ever be praised, they have no alternative but to be disruptive. If one cannot build, then they can only take satisfaction in destruction.

Yeah; you are pointing out common desires that nearly everyone has. But sociopaths also know this and manipulate these.

But I suspect most of us can simply walk away from these kinds of manipulations when we have other things to do that are satisfying; and I suspect most of the moderators here on PT do in fact have other things vying for their attention.

Hell, I’m retired and I can’t get through everything I want to get through in a week. The only reason I even show up here is that the PT topics are often very interesting, and I have a high speed connection that allows me to look in from time to time when I happen to be working on my computer. So most of the time I’m multitasking up a storm when I’m here.

Expressed violent thoughts a number of times?? Yeah Mike, I would thoroughly enjoy kicking your ass and the asses of anyone else who has called me a liar, but I haven’t “expressed violent thoughts a number of times” in the way you’re implying. You’re the one who needs a psychiatrist, along with some others here. If you’re considered sane, I’d rather be considered crazy. And comparing me or anyone else you simply don’t agree with to a serial killer just helps show how paranoid and delusional you are.

Whew! Glad I never called Kris a liar. I only called him a coward and a bully.

Mike Elzinga said: Lotsa bluster; everybody’s collective asses are exposed right here.

So it’s like “one of these days Alice, POW! To the mooning”?

Another collection of Kris’ delusional rants.

Kris said:

And of course your insulting comments, and the insulting comments by the other hypocrites here, don’t violate any of those rules you posted, eh?

Apparently, all that matters here is that any insults have to be aimed at creationists or anyone who doesn’t blindly and viciously attack them right along with you guys/gals.

Giving you back your own shit isn’t allowed. Questioning you isn’t allowed. Having a mind of my own isn’t allowed. Calling you on your bullshit isn’t allowed. Anything less than total devotion and obedience to you and your creationist hating ‘cause’ isn’t allowed. Hypocrisy, by you and your cohorts, is allowed, and encouraged.

Kris said:

And of course you and others going on and on about “trolls”, and repeatedly posting “DNFTT”, isn’t “SPAM”. Yeah, whatever.

Why do you think that a “dissenter” is automatically a “troll”? You’ve said you’re a Christian. Would your Christian God approve of your insulting, hypocritical, hateful behavior?

Kris said:

Maybe, just maybe the moderators are getting wise to the hypocrisy and other bullshit you and others are guilty of.

Now STFU spamming troll.

How do you like your own shit thrown back at you?

Panda’s Thumb is a blog made for defending evolution and promoting proper science education, and since Kris was the one who invaded the blog to spew both Creationist arguments that we were expected to “tolerate” (like we are supposed to tolerate falsehoods?) and then claim to be non-religious at other times, why shouldn’t we regard him as unwelcome, inconsistent and disruptive? Why shouldn’t we treat him like he is the enemy, when that’s all he has ever acted like since he arrived here?

An example of hypocrisy would be us invading and attacking ID promoters on Uncommon Descent. I’ve never done that, and never will. Maybe Kris can go over there and drive the ID people crazy for a while, to prove to us once and for all that he is an equal-opportunity critic, and not a bigoted Creationist concern troll.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/

Kris the creationist wrote:

“If, however, “descent with modification” is defined as showing that speciation (evolution) occurs and/or occurred, then that’s a different ballgame, and requires greater evidence. While a lot of evidence points to a persuasive probability that descent with modification, including divergence/speciation, occurred throughout(?) the history of life, there’s a lot more work to do to before it can reasonably be said that it has been established close to 100%, and I’m not sure it can be reasonably said that it can be established ‘empirically’. Many inferences have been and have to be made, and inferences are a matter of opinion.”

This is of course incorrect. I already posted a link to a web page entitled:

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution

If Kris wants to discuss the point, he can do so here. Maybe someone will want to discuss it with him. Unless of course he is just plain chicken shit.

DS said: Kris the creationist wrote:

You might just leave a short bland note on the original thread to invite him to come to the BW for discussion. He’ll ignore it, of course, but that works too.

Yawn.

(Bored.)

All the spamming at The Immune System Cross-examination Still Burns, and other forums, is very unChristlike, don’t you think?

Makes you wonder if these anti-science creation-supporters are Christians? (Never known a real creationist who wasn’t.)

It’s funny how trolls stubbornly resist being prodded to direct their comments to the BW. They know that once they do, they don’t have any real nuisance value any more: “What’s the point of trolling, then?”

Kris huffs and puffs and squeaks “What are you afraid of?” hiding behind his mommy’s apron. Afraid to mix it up on the big kid’s playground, he’ll sit in the sandbox and cry.

Poor widdle Kwis! Mean old scientists call you out on your stupid shit? Maybe if we ignore the little wanker he’ll go back into the closet and play with himself.

Geeze, I’m beginning to miss FL! I tell you, the neighborhood is going to hell.

I knew the asshole was chicken shit. All he haas to do is come here and provide a better explanation for the 29 different independent data sets that are all consistent with common descent. Until he does, I guess he will just be someone who believes in evolution but not in common descent. Yea right.

Everyone should remember, he had his chance to discuss science, he chose to quote mine and insult instead. He can cry all he wants to now, but everyone is wise to his crap.

stevaroni said:

Scott F said:

But that’s the thing, isn’t it. The appeal to miracles also means that the last miracle God performed as part of the Flood Story … was to eliminate all physical evidence of The Flood.

Yeah, I’ve heard that argument.

But… um.…. why?

Why carefully eliminate any and all traces of physical evidence, apparently to specifically make it impossible to see, yet take pains to ensure that people still knew about it by literally dictating it as holy writ?

After all, this is not a shy God.

He smites people in bulk. He jealously proclaims that he is the only God and people had better worship none other. Or Else. Ask Pharaoh just how invisible and ineffable God is.

And yet.… for some reason God sees fit to give FL no more to work with than a few ambiguous paragraphs in a 3000 year old holy book written by migrant shepherds.

It’s not my argument, but I’ll try.

Why eliminate all evidence? I don’t know “why”. All I can do is report the obvious evidence that there *is* no physical evidence for The Flood. Since it’s all miracles, that must be one of them.

But my understanding is that there are three parts. First, the creationist believes that his god is honest and moral and would not resort to deceipt. I don’t know why. He is obviously not moral, and uses obvious falsehoods when it suits the narrative of the story.

Second, the creationist believes both that his holy book is true and inerrant *and* that the world is “true” in some sense. Apparently he feels the need to make reality conform to his book.

Third, the creationist has bought into the Enlightenment, at least in part. He believes that Science provides an accurate (or at least useful) description of the world.

Put it all together, and the creationist has a problem. These three things do not agree. Specifically, the world that Science reveals is not the same world as that revealed in the Bible. Since the creationist knows that he (personally) is infallible, that his beliefs are inerrant and cannot be altered, then he feels compelled to demonstrate why Science is “wrong” about the world it describes. Typically this involves demonstrating that human scientists have biases (while the creationist has *no* human bias at all), or that all scientists are involved in a massive conspiracy to hide the truth about the world, or that scientists are simply ignorant fools.

I think this latter is why the creationist is so fond of such stories as we see here recently: “Look here! See? Science is so easy, even a *child* can come up with the “right” answer that supports my inerrant infallible belief in my own infallibility. I don’t need no ignorant, biased, conspiring scientist to confirm my true, inerrant, unbiased beliefs.”

What is amazing is the unvarnished hubris. The creationist simply knows it is impossible for him to be wrong. Therefore, all of scientific knowledge must be wrong. Even though the creationist believes that Science offers a “True” window on the world.

It must be debilitating to live with constant cognitive dissonance.

SWT said:

FL, perhaps you still don’t understand the question that underlies the comment you’ve elected to try to respond to. One more try:

Since you believe the Flood narrative to be an historical account of God’s miraculous action, why is it so important to you to find a naturalistic explanation for those events?

I don’t understand that either, since he has clearly admitted that it is all dependent on divine intervention (miracles). Why not just leave it at that? I believe I know why, but …

Gotta love them “excellent hugh numbers”.

And people wonder why we make fun of creationists.

Scott F said:

Typically this involves demonstrating that human scientists have biases (while the creationist has *no* human bias at all), or that all scientists are involved in a massive conspiracy to hide the truth about the world, or that scientists are simply ignorant fools.

I think this latter is why the creationist is so fond of such stories as we see here recently: “Look here! See? Science is so easy, even a *child* can come up with the “right” answer that supports my inerrant infallible belief in my own infallibility. I don’t need no ignorant, biased, conspiring scientist to confirm my true, inerrant, unbiased beliefs.”

What is amazing is the unvarnished hubris. The creationist simply knows it is impossible for him to be wrong. Therefore, all of scientific knowledge must be wrong. Even though the creationist believes that Science offers a “True” window on the world.

See also; Byers, Robert

Dave Luckett said:

It would appear that Bozorgmehr has finally managed to sneak an article into a journal. And what a journal! Here’s its entry on SJR: http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsea[…]&tip=sid. Observe the oracularity! Savour the scienciness! Pay $40 to tap direct into Bozorgmehrism!

The windmills, Sancho Panza! They are tottering!

Ugh, and I was really trying to stay away from Talk Rational lately. I enjoy many of the members over there and they have quite the collection of net kooks but I need to better manage how much time I spend online.

Dammit.

Rikki_Tikki_Taalik said:

Dave Luckett said:

It would appear that Bozorgmehr has finally managed to sneak an article into a journal. And what a journal! Here’s its entry on SJR: http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsea[…]&tip=sid. Observe the oracularity! Savour the scienciness! Pay $40 to tap direct into Bozorgmehrism!

The windmills, Sancho Panza! They are tottering!

Ugh, and I was really trying to stay away from Talk Rational lately. I enjoy many of the members over there and they have quite the collection of net kooks but I need to better manage how much time I spend online.

Dammit.

Oh, I didn’t get this from Talk Rational. Borzorgmehr showed up here (despite having been banned) to crow about it. I just found the journal this appeared in - which is how it got on Springer, for forty bucks a view - and checked its impact rating on JSR. Wanna guess how many times it’s been cited in the last few years? How many cutting-edge researchers have followed up, not just on Joe’s splodge, but on anything published in it? Have a look. You know you wanna.

The foolishness/insanity of Joe Bozorgmehr:

Joe says: “… The fusion of chromosome 2a and 2b, again, does not indicate common ancestry. It could so easily refer to the fact that Adam had 48 chromosomes but Noah and his descendants had 46 thanks to a translocation…”

Joe says: “Morphogenetic fields are non-energetic organizing principles that impose order on otherwise indeterminate structures.”

Joe says: “Btw, just killing is part of my religion. Did not the prophet Elijah slaughter 450 priests of the false god, Ba’al (1 Kings 18:40)?”

Joe says: ”…wiping out a conference of evolutionary biologists but reasoned that it would not produce the intended result.”

Joe says: “I will admit that it did occur to my mind that conferences were ideal places to wipe out all of the current dinosaurs within the scientific establishment in one fell swoop”.

Joe fails on the age of the Earth: “By my calculations, there is a disparity between the age of the planet and the material it is made from. …But if you had to press me, I would say the planet is between 0.8bn to 1.5 bn years old. … It is based on iridum dating for isotopes 191Ir and 193Ir. I have also studied lava flows and rock formations. The figure of 4.6bn years is much too high. … The math is beyond the ken of everyone here. I can’t reduce it to baby steps. There is some serious calculus involved with double integrals and the like. … Like I say. It is complicated. I would need 4 pages of pure math just to explain it to you. It also involves some very taxing stochastic differentiation.”

No math ever provided.

Joe says: “… I am not here to be liked - I am here to shatter the idols of ignorance and to pave the way for a new era in science and philosophy. Like it or not, I represent the future of humanity whereas you represent only the fossilized remains you examine.”

Joe says: “I’m gloating, all right. I just can’t wait to see the full data when it is made available. I am giggling like a little girl.”

Joe jokes: “I am not just some guy who rattles his keyboard on talk forums. I am a bigtime player and I’m playing to win.”

Joe says: “So what if I have a healthy sense of self-confidence? I know I’m right, but it is hard to convince everyone here to think the way I do.”

Years ago Joe says: “… Bozorgmehrism is going to take just a few years to become mainstream. You’ll see.”

Merriam-Webster’s definition of megalomania: a delusional mental disorder that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur.

Dave Luckett said:

Oh, I didn’t get this from Talk Rational. Borzorgmehr showed up here (despite having been banned) to crow about it. I just found the journal this appeared in - which is how it got on Springer, for forty bucks a view - and checked its impact rating on JSR. Wanna guess how many times it’s been cited in the last few years? How many cutting-edge researchers have followed up, not just on Joe’s splodge, but on anything published in it? Have a look. You know you wanna.

Without making any comment on the paper itself at this point, I will point out that the 2012 impact factor for Theory in Biosciences is 0.925. To provide context, the 2012 impact factor for Journal of Theoretical Biology is 2.351 and the 2012 impact factor for Bioinformatics is 5.323.

Full disclosure: I typically publish in journals with 2012 impact factors ranging from about 2.2 to 4.5.

Dave Luckett said:

Oh, I didn’t get this from Talk Rational. Borzorgmehr showed up here (despite having been banned) to crow about it. I just found the journal this appeared in - which is how it got on Springer, for forty bucks a view - and checked its impact rating on JSR.

Ah I see, the paper has a few years on it. I thought this was “new work” he was currently boasting about. I saw a link to SecularCafe and read that thread but hadn’t caught the date. Shame on me. As far as TR goes I only mentioned it because they tolerate him over there and I’d be obligated to go look at him get shredded. Bullet dodged.

Wanna guess how many times it’s been cited in the last few years? How many cutting-edge researchers have followed up, not just on Joe’s splodge, but on anything published in it? Have a look. You know you wanna.

Heh, looks like they’re neck and neck with BIO-Complexity for the title of Journal Least Likely To Kick Darwin In The ‘Nads.

rob said:

The foolishness/insanity of Joe Bozorgmehr:

Joe says: “… The fusion of chromosome 2a and 2b, again, does not indicate common ancestry. It could so easily refer to the fact that Adam had 48 chromosomes but Noah and his descendants had 46 thanks to a translocation…”

Joe says: “Morphogenetic fields are non-energetic organizing principles that impose order on otherwise indeterminate structures.”

Joe says: “Btw, just killing is part of my religion. Did not the prophet Elijah slaughter 450 priests of the false god, Ba’al (1 Kings 18:40)?”

Joe says: ”…wiping out a conference of evolutionary biologists but reasoned that it would not produce the intended result.”

Joe says: “I will admit that it did occur to my mind that conferences were ideal places to wipe out all of the current dinosaurs within the scientific establishment in one fell swoop”.

Joe fails on the age of the Earth: “By my calculations, there is a disparity between the age of the planet and the material it is made from. …But if you had to press me, I would say the planet is between 0.8bn to 1.5 bn years old. … It is based on iridum dating for isotopes 191Ir and 193Ir. I have also studied lava flows and rock formations. The figure of 4.6bn years is much too high. … The math is beyond the ken of everyone here. I can’t reduce it to baby steps. There is some serious calculus involved with double integrals and the like. … Like I say. It is complicated. I would need 4 pages of pure math just to explain it to you. It also involves some very taxing stochastic differentiation.”

No math ever provided.

Joe says: “… I am not here to be liked - I am here to shatter the idols of ignorance and to pave the way for a new era in science and philosophy. Like it or not, I represent the future of humanity whereas you represent only the fossilized remains you examine.”

Joe says: “I’m gloating, all right. I just can’t wait to see the full data when it is made available. I am giggling like a little girl.”

Joe jokes: “I am not just some guy who rattles his keyboard on talk forums. I am a bigtime player and I’m playing to win.”

Joe says: “So what if I have a healthy sense of self-confidence? I know I’m right, but it is hard to convince everyone here to think the way I do.”

Years ago Joe says: “… Bozorgmehrism is going to take just a few years to become mainstream. You’ll see.”

Merriam-Webster’s definition of megalomania: a delusional mental disorder that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur.

Joe needs a bigger bong hit. “Bozorgmehrism” LOL!

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