My Favorite Quotes from an ID Advocate


Now that the Raelien UFO cult has come out firmly in support of intelligent design, perhaps it's time for the Discovery Institute (DI) to finally bite the bullet and come clean about how they really feel regarding the "Marvin the Martian as Creator" hypothesis. However, as former DI Director of Media and Public Relations Mark Edwards told the Sacramento Bee on June 22, 2003, ID advocates are willing to posit even wilder, and frankly more ridiculous, claims:

"[A] person could logically argue that some sort of human has been able to design features of life working through time travel," he said. "And some people say aliens are the designer."

So in addition to getting cozy with the Raeliens, here we have a spokesman for the DI claiming the designer might be some sort of super-intelligent, time-traveling human.

What would Phillip Johnson say about this? I think he'd probably say something like, "The tent may be big, but it's not THAT big!"


Well, you could ‘logically’ argue it. Of course you would still be a stark raving loon.

A distinguishing feature of scientific inquiry is its fealty to open-mindedness; rigorous insistence on proof and logical explanation; and, ideally, perception uninfluenced by pre-conception. But science didn’t start with those goals fully realized and it hasn’t attained them yet - it isn’t that way now. It wants to be, it tries to be, it does the best it can, heroically at times, against vicious ignorance and worse. - Our consciousness emerges into the world from a state of not-being we’re obviously unclear about. And the world we emerge into is equally unknown, at first. But we have tradition, and we have the catalogs and collected labors of others who preceded us here. Modern science came right out of the alchemist’s den; and from the priest’s temple. The division is so complete, the connection is so foreign now as to seem impossible, but there was a time when priests had all the knowledge of scientific things there was, and not just in medieval Europe; that’s a human phenomenon that’s virtually universal. It’s important to combat the ignorance of smug religionists, but the danger is it can confirm the parochial attitudes of beleaguered scientists. - We don’t know what’s out there, not really. And we don’t know what’s deepest in ourselves. Those frontiers exist, they’re as real as Mars. And a name for what’s on the other side of those frontiers, both at once, some kind of whole-system describer, would have to be virtually religious in its universality, though blasphemous heresy to contemporary churches. Because the fundamentalists are so obviously and damagingly wrong doesn’t make current science the final arbiter of all real things. Science moves toward the unknown as if the unknown were mute. As far as we can tell it is. But really, how much do we know? How long have we looked, how far? This is infinite time and space we’re looking into. It’s naked hubris to say we’ve seen enough to be certain what it is. What causes us to be, to know existence, even if it is an accident - as opposed to an “intelligently designed” occurrence - is so profoundly, amazingly wonderful that “accidental” seems weak and insulting as a description. But if the only alternative explanation is anthropomorphic delusional fantasy, then yes, accident it must be. If that’s the only alternative. - When the question’s framed as a binary choice we’re denied the opportunity for wonder.

Hey, msg, that’s good stuff. But Jack Handey is a lot funnier than you.

Yeah well. John Stewart’s funnier than you when he’s not even ON.

Yeah well Jon Stewart.

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