# Deometry?

Looks like they’re coming for mathematics now:

Forget about isosceles triangles and the Pythagorean Theorem—they’re square. The hottest trend in high-school math these days is deometry, the study of how the Creator created points, lines, angles, shapes and proofs. While critics decry the entry of religion into math class, fans of the new teaching method maintain that by giving God a primary role in geometry and other fields of mathematics, they are merely restoring balance to an area that has sought to remove all vestiges of religion from the public polygon.

I’m pretty sure this is a parody…

I particularly liked this comment on that piece

Remember, the Pythagorean Theorem is just that - only a theorem. How wonderful that our children can now learn both sides of these controversial mathematics issues.

Both sides? Isn’t there also a hippopotenuse or something like that?

Jason Rosenhouse says:

I’m pretty sure this is a parody…

I don’t know. It sounds every bit as reasonable as the usual “Intelligent Design” arguments…

:)

I remember something about”the angle of the dangle equals the torque of the pork” I guess this is what they’re talking about. High schoolers are really interested in this subject. I know I was.

One of the bedrock principles of deoconomics is that when you run out of food if you truly believe then manna will fall from the sky and you’ll be fed. This could have a significant negative impact on the Kansas economy when it’s no longer necessary to grow crops.

In addition to the “just a theorem” comment, you’ve got to dig the use of “Math for Deommies” as a section title. Sometimes these parodies are just spot on.

Sounds reasonable ( ??? ) to me. I read in I Kings 7:23 that Solomon built a molten sea that was 30 cubits around and 10 cubits across. That makes pi=3!!!

Of course ID Math is the new hotness. Every single triangle ever is fine-tuned to an infinite order or magnatude. the sum of the angles is 180.0000000000000000000000000->infinity. if triangles deviated from this by even 1º * 10^-150, all of geometry would come crashing down. You can’t even comprehend how improbable is infinite fine tuning.

Aw shucks - at first, I thought they were going to show us how to measure gods…

God I MEAN the Intelligent Designer is measurable, Peirce. For instance, hurricanes are irreducibly complex machines with a purpose. To be IC something must have multiple interacting parts which cannot be removed without destroying the function. Hurricanes have multiple interacting parts. I quote from a website:

The main parts of a hurricane (shown below) are the rainbands on its outer edges, the eye, and the eyewall. Air spirals in toward the center in a counter-clockwise pattern, and out the top in the opposite direction. In the very center of the storm, air sinks, forming the cloud-free eye.

And of course the ‘purpose’ of a hurricane is to f___ s___ up such as in the following event:

Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand.

So obviously, hurricanes are IC things created with a purpose by a Designer. This implies that The Designer exists. So you can measure the designer. Somebody can say “How many Designers are there?” and you can say “At least One.” counting is a type of measurement.

The atheists who control the Weather Channel would never admit or publish this science because they have a demonic agenda to destroy the family.

And if you want further proof that hurricanes have purpose, check out this story:

New Orleans now is abortion free

that article is premised on Intelligent Design.

hey, don’t shoot the messenger.

Re “I’m pretty sure this is a parody…” Gee, ya think?

Re “That makes pi=3!!!” Jethro: “Pi R square.” Jed: “Pie are round, boy. (One of these days I’ve got to have a long talk with that boy…)”

Re “the sum of the angles is 180.0000000000000000000000000->infinity.”

That’s assuming that reality conforms to Euclidean rules. What if it’s one of those other two geometries? ;)

Henry

Well, OBVIOUSLY, it was God who decided that an African Americans is (under the “Three-Fifths Compromise”) counted as three-fifths of a human being.

Um, I’m confused … does this make Deometry easier or harder for the New Orleans clean-up? Or have the experts, maybe, decided to make the victims closer to one-tenth of a human … just to make the Development Math work out more easily?

Fiona

We now also have Deojustice, Dembski is seriously suggesting that the national guard be allowed to “Shoot to kill” even looters, i.e people who just want enough food to stay alive, that is the most despicable thing I have heard in I don’t know how long.

I might also ask, shall I, as the FSM be included in this new Deo Mathematics, teach the controversy, less on shapes more on lines!!!!!

We now also have Deojustice, Dembski is seriously suggesting that the national guard be allowed to “Shoot to kill” even looters, i.e people who just want enough food to stay alive, that is the most despicable thing I have heard in I don’t know how long.

I might also ask, shall I, as the FSM be included in this new Deo Mathematics, teach the controversy, less on shapes more on lines!!!!!

Relax, I’m not about to become a regular viewer nor contributor to this site – not under its current policies – but as a provider of Internet educational materials I sometimes find T/O has a glimmer of useful info. Because of the nature of this topic I was once obliged - unwillingly - to look up the biblical treatment of pi. If the holy Scriptures had said that pi. equalled a ring-tailed ‘possum stranded on a power-pole, it wouldn’t have concerned me in the least. That’s just not what the message is about. Anyway, I was obliged to look into this piece of superlative pedantry, and, lo and behold, the Bible (Authorized Version) does something like this. (I can’t be bothered looking it up again.) As I recall, it specifies one of the measurements through a figure of speech as being the more important, rounds the other to the nearest whole number, and deliberately leaves pi. unsolved. Well, not exactly unsolved – like many other things, it solves at Infinity. Personally, I am more interested in getting washed in the Laver, than investigating its geometry. But, yes, one may suppose that even Geometry speaks to the honour of it’s Creator. P.H..

Philip Heywood Wrote:

Relax, I’m not about to become a regular viewer nor contributor to this site — not under its current policies

It’s current policies of free speech and unedited comments bother you? You mean, you prefer D*mbski’s method of deleting any and every comment that is even slightly critical of any of his logicless ramblings? Maybe that is it - you are so oposed to hearing the point of view you don’t like that you feel that any site that allows for it is a place you don’t desire to visit.

And nice after-the-fact explanaition to why the Bible gets Pi ridiculously wrong, but I don’t swallow it. If nothing else, if you want Pi deliberately obscured, the best way is to only give the circunference *or* the radius. Once you give both, and put them in an Inerrant Holy Book you introduce lies and distortions where none are supposed to be.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf

For Heywood and Grey Wolf: The Apostrophe Protection Society Membership is open and encouraged.

3 isn’t equal to pi. But technically, 3.14 isn’t pi either. 22/7 is way off. 3.14159265358979324 isn’t equal to pi. “3” isn’t bad for a civilization with only a tiny grasp on what Pi even is.

Not that I’m Xian, but there are much stronger arguments against fundamentalism than the recording of an archaic approximation.

Isaac Asimov said:

[W]hen people thought the Earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the Earth was spherical they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the Earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the Earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together.

Re: Pi=3 in the bible, the same verse appears twice, once in one of the Kings, once in one of the Chronicles, concerning the building of Solomon’s temple:

“And he made the molten sea, and it was round, ten cubits from rim to rim, five cubits high, and a line of thirty cubits measured its circumfrence.”

The nearest whole number measurement would be thitry-one cubits circumfrence.

Philip Heywood wrote:

Relax, I’m not about to become a regular viewer nor contributor to this site — not under its current policies

I think the policy he objects to is having lots of biologists around to talk about biology. Here’s a guy who clearly prefers his biology from certain Lawyers and Engineers.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster Wrote:

I might also ask, shall I, as the FSM be included in this new Deo Mathematics, teach the controversy, less on shapes more on lines!!!!!

Oh great omniscient, omnipotent, and tasty Flying Spaghetti Monster, your humble servant deeply begs your forgiveness, but wouldn’t extrusion of areas (circles, wedges, planes) along a spline be the most divinely inspired of all mathematics. RAmen.

PS. the Invisible Pink Unicorn wants to discuss this supreme diety buisness. PPS. Does the participation of THE Flying Spaghetti Monster on PT proove that he exists?

I just bet the Deometers make a big song-and-dance about nominally christian mathematicians such as Newton and Kepler. I say nominally since both lived in times and places where it was fatally dangerous for public figures to *not* profess faith, and for education *not* to consist of extreme religious indoctrination for the greater part. Both pursued an understanding of the universe that they each in their own way felt to have been ordered by a deity. Notably, Kepler’s passion for his god undoubtedly exceeded that of any clergy and should properly be recognised as such. The greatest and usually only progress ocurred when each abandoned assumptions about their deity and just accurately modelled the data of such order as did exist.

It is a shame that modern ID proponents can’t be so honestly diligent. Their work would then at least have the feature of due scholarship.

Rustopher.

Well i can see where this is heading .…

Next thing we know the Deometer crowd will claim that the universe is made of string that the good lord made from his cotton garden in the heaven.

“Intelligent String Theory” anyone.

Strings of sphaghetti? :)