OK, maybe I’m jumping the gun, and The Panda’s Thumb is not a politics blog.
But it is really refreshing to hear a national politician say forthrightly that “Evolution is more grounded in my experience than angels.”
For more about Barack Obama, visit here.
Glad to hear it, but there’s another side to Obama some here might have a problem with: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kirst[…]b_32362.html
He’s still promising, but wait and watch and learn. We don’t know everything yet.
Normally I don’t care enough about the Obama to like or dislike him; he just seemed like a marrionette that the Democratic Party was polishing for bigger venues. This is actually something that I can notice and respect: it’s very ballsy for a politician to take a stance on a sensitive topic like evolution.
Obsidian Wings has a nice little featurette on what Obama’s done in Congress.
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsi[…]ent-24365388
It strikes me as competent and workmanlike, which is in stark contrast to most Congresscritters these days. His comment on evolution seems to me to be the least of his virtues.
He can believe in whatever gods he likes as long as he keeps them out of science classes and out of his legislative decisions.
I agree that it’s really good to see that a man so open about his faith, which has some nuances and intellectual qualities that I can cope with in most instances. He is not a fundie. Far from it. His respect for evidence (evident as a lawyer who once was editor of the Harvard Law Review) is clear and powerful. It’s important that he made the distinction that evolution “is more in [his] experience than angels.” That’s a huge boon to us who respect evidence.
Never voted for a theist for public office, Norm . … ?
It is, of course, more than Al Gore was willing to do:
‘Rev Dr’ Lenny Flank asked:
As you well know, we’ve never been given that choice in our life time. The closest thing to a non-theist president was probably Lincoln.
You’re just being a bigot, Lenny.
Read the article I linked. I said he was promising but he will be what Sam Harris calls an enabler at the very least. All presidents have to be to get elected these days. There are still things about his religious beliefs that could be a problem if there isn’t a better alternative.
Want some cheese to go with that whine, Norm?
‘Rev Dr’ Lenny Flank wrote:
No.
Want a clue to go with your over used cliches?
CLUE: Being a sarcastic asshole on the internet is going out of style.
‘Rev Dr’ Lenny Flank wrote:
No.
How ‘bout you, want a clue to go with your over used cliche?
Clue: Being a sarcastic asshole on the internet is going out of style.
I agree with Norm. It is clear that flank ignored the substance of the article and posted what amounted to a knee-jerk reaction. He didn’t dare to admit his mistake, and instead tried to insult Norm. He will obviously dismiss any criticisim with a “(shrug)”, just like ID-activists like Luskin dismiss any criticism with “(shrug)”. Just watch.
Category I - The Creationist Religion is Good. Studying Evolution makes people Atheists.
Category II - The Theistic Evolutionist. Religion is Good. Studying Evolution didn’t make ME an atheist.
Category III - The Militant Atheist. Religion is Bad. Studying evolution OUGHT to make right-thinking people atheists.
Cowardly Disembodied Voice wrote:
Nope. That’s not quite right. It’s more like this:
Studying evolution OUGHT to make people stop being creationists.
Knowing there are thousands of contradictory religious claims in addition to creationism that also can’t prove themselves OUGHT to make people distrust religious claims.
Knowing God is ultimately just an anthropomorphic and arrogant previliging of human beings in a universe as vast and old as ours OUGHT to make people atheists.
Damn, now Norm is gonna start preaching again . … .
(sigh)
How come you say that Obama has no experience in handling foreign policy matters?
That is crazy??????
Obama is a product of the US foreign policy: he is local, he is foreign, he is both. I was a friend of his Kenyan father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is what globalisation is all about.
I will vote him
How come you say that Obama has no experience in handling foreign policy matters? That is crazy?????? Obama is a product of the US foreign policy: he is local, he is foreign, he is both. I was a friend of his Kenyan father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obama is what globalisation is all about.
How come you say that Obama has no experience in handling foreign policy matters? That is crazy?????? Obama is a product of the US foreign policy: he is local, he is foreign, he is both. I was a friend of his Kenyan father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obama is what globalisation is all about.
How come you say that Obama has no experience in handling foreign policy matters? That is crazy?????? Obama is a product of the US foreign policy: he is local, he is foreign, he is both. I was a friend of his Kenyan father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obama is what globalisation is all about. Obama is my future president
How come you say that Obama has no experience in handling foreign policy matters? That is crazy?????? Obama is a product of the US foreign policy: he is local, he is foreign, he is both. I was a friend of his Kenyan father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obama is what globalisation is all about. Obama is my future president
If you want a genuine, wise and compassionate president look into Obama
You definitely have to see him in person to believe it. I was wavering with the same old questions (too young, too little experience), but he’s more of an adult than our last three presidents combined. Funny Obama t-shirt at http://www.kawktees.com
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