IRS claims Kent Hovind’s $250,000 challenge; all mysteries of life now solved

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The latest from the Pensacola News-Journal is that Kent Hovind is in jail until sentencing in January, and the jury ordered the Hovinds to forfeit over $400k to the government:

‘Dr. Dino’ guilty on all counts Couple could get more than 200 years

Pensacola evangelist and tax protester Kent Hovind winked at his wife and gave her a reassuring smile as he was led away to jail.

Oblivious as always, I guess… By the way, now is the time to screen-capture the headine for future use.

Hovind is not really going to get 200 years in jail, probably more like six months is my bet, if the sentences of corporate scammers are any guide. So it won’t be long before he’s back on the road doing his thing. But at the very least his prospective fans should be informed before his talks that Hovind isn’t just a scientific joke and a fake “Dr.”, he is also a convicted felon.

The jury also granted the prosecution’s request for the Hovinds to forfeit $430,400. That amount equals the value of the checks signed and cashed by Jo Hovind in the 44 counts.

There’s the real story. For years, Hovind has been claiming that he was offering a $250,000 prize to anyone who could “prove evolution.” Of course, by “prove evolution” Hovind meant:

* NOTE: When I use the word evolution, I am not referring to the minor variations found in all of the various life forms (microevolution). I am referring to the general theory of evolution which believes these five major events took place without God: 1. Time, space, and matter came into existence by themselves. 2. Planets and stars formed from space dust. 3. Matter created life by itself. 4. Early life-forms learned to reproduce themselves. 5. Major changes occurred between these diverse life forms (i.e., fish changed to amphibians, amphibians changed to reptiles, and reptiles changed to birds or mammals).

That’s right, your friendly neighborhood biologist has to use evolution to answer fundamental cosmological questions, peer into the Planck epoch and solve all the mysteries of existence. And that’s just for step #1 of the challenge. Obviously, getting that $250,000 out of Hovind was impossible.

But now the IRS has gone and done the impossible. Clearly this means that the IRS is omniscient and omnipotent, and has the answers to all the mysteries of existence locked up in the basement, accessible if only you could find the right form to send them…

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He claimed that he was ABOVE the law, not that he was ignorant about it.

Personally, I wonder if why the Hovind’s didn’t offer any defense at the trial to ensure that the exercise would be over and settled out while Pres. chimpy is still in office —- to allow for a pardon.

Ridiculous, of course, but from what I’ve seen, I wouldn’t discount any speculation about Kent’s creative reasoning.

IIRC, his lawyer was bleating that the prosecution hadn’t proved that he was aware of the law.

Perhaps when you are that far above the law it is hard to discern the details.

Clearly this means that the IRS is omniscient and omnipotent…

Which is why it’s a really, really bad idea to piss them off.

My best guess is they’ll get between 6 and 10 years with parole in 3. They’ll also get hit with a penalty around $10 million. It’s a lot of counts, but, traditionally, criminal sentences are light and it’s the penalties and fines that do the most damage.

The really interesting thing here is that if Hovind promised $250,000 for answering those five questions, and the IRS got $400,000, then logically the IRS must have answered eight questions, each of them as weighty as “Time, space, and matter came into existence by themselves”.

I wonder what questions 6, 7, and 8 were :O

The whackjob comments under the news articles are so depressing, though.

Has anyone made any efforts to get Hovind’s mug shots?

Is the IRS even finished with Hovind? They have not yet charged him with every year that he evaded taxes that they could have. Or is that something they will hold over his head if he fails to behave?

Between legal fees, the fine from the county case, the taxes owed, and over $400K forfeited, the Hovinds owe well over a million dollars. Not to mention not being able to travel cutting back on the revenue. Can their organization even survive that? Of course they can start from scratch after everything has been taken from them.

Popoff is back after being shown to be a complete fake, and on cable TV no less… Hovind will probably survive as well, unfortunately.

Jesus loves you, but it’s upsetting to see you bash Kent Hovind Because he is standing up for the truth. You may be able the find a flaw in a man, because man is fallible. The Word of God is infallible. Thanks John P.S. I may not agree with every stand that Dr. Hovind makes But I think he is trying to spread the gospel of Christ. We should all thank God for him.

Re “Jesus loves you, but it’s upsetting to see you bash Kent Hovind […]”

Er, not to be picky, but isn’t there a rather big difference between supporting Jesus, versus supporting criminals who claim to support Jesus?

Henry

My wife and I have nearly two dozen grand children. We will tell them the Hovind story. “Children. Do not bother to read the US Constitution. Some well meaning people read it and saw the words ‘Congress shall make no law.’ They believed those words. Knowing that their work was dedicated to the Lord Jesus Christ they believed the Constitution’s protection of the expression of religion would mean that they could use ALL THEIR MONEY for the Lord. How could there be a law requiring them to obey a government agency that operates outside the law on a consistent basis? But they were wrong. They were sent to prison. SO, children – do NOT BELIEVE what you read in the US Constitution. You cannot trust it!” Instead, be respectful. Say, “Heil” whenever a government person comes to talk to you. Respect for der Fuhrer: that will keep you safe. Heil!

The Word of God is infallible.

Maybe Hovind should have read that part about “render unto Caesar” . … . (snicker) (giggle)

You are correct about the Caesar thing…He was definitely wrong in what he did. But, to all of you out there getting a kick about this, I would lovingly like to share with you the following:

Romans 2:1 ¶ Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. 3 But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?

Mt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

May you come to the realization of the reality of God and go to Him through Jesus Christ, the Lord of heaven and earth. He died so that you would not have to.

You are correct about the Caesar thing…He was definitely wrong in what he did. But, to all of you out there getting a kick about this, I would lovingly like to share with you the following:

Romans 2:1 ¶ Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. 3 But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?

Mt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

May you come to the realization of the reality of God and go to Him through Jesus Christ, the Lord of heaven and earth. He died so that you would not have to.

You are correct about the Caesar thing…He was definitely wrong in what he did. But, to all of you out there getting a kick about this, I would lovingly like to share with you the following:

Romans 2:1 ¶ Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. 3 But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?

Mt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

May you come to the realization of the reality of God and go to Him through Jesus Christ, the Lord of heaven and earth. He died so that you would not have to.

You are correct about the Caesar thing…He was definitely wrong in what he did. But, to all of you out there getting a kick about this, I would lovingly like to share with you the following:

Romans 2:1 ¶ Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. 3 But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?

Mt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

May you come to the realization of the reality of God and go to Him through Jesus Christ, the Lord of heaven and earth. He died so that you would not have to.

You are correct about the Caesar thing…He was definitely wrong in what he did. But, to all of you out there getting a kick about this, I would lovingly like to share with you the following:

Romans 2:1 ¶ Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. 3 But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?

Mt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

May you come to the realization of the reality of God and go to Him through Jesus Christ, the Lord of heaven and earth. He died so that you would not have to.

You are correct about the Caesar thing…He was definitely wrong in what he did. But, to all of you out there getting a kick about this, I would lovingly like to share with you the following:

Romans 2:1 ¶ Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. 3 But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?

Mt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

May you come to the realization of the reality of God and go to Him through Jesus Christ, the Lord of heaven and earth. He died so that you would not have to.

Some well meaning people read it and saw the words ‘Congress shall make no law.’ They believed those words.

Being a Canadian, I’m not overly familiar with the US Constitution. Is that where the period is or does it show up later, after a few more qualifying words?

Boy, all you have to do is say “Hovind” and the entertaining fruitcakes come out of the woodwork, eh?

Nevermind that he’s a convicted liar, nevermind he has scammed these people out of serious bucks, nevermind that he has no legitmate science training, nevermind that he’s Hoovered down nearly every nutcase idea to come down the pipe. He’s still their hero.

At least they’re all safe from zombies; no brains to be eaten.

Michael Hopkins Wrote:

Following the link actually gives us KENT HOVIND’s mugshot. BWA HA HA!

Rich: I suspect that Hovind did not mount a defense simply because he rejected the legitimacy of the court, the trial, and the state, altogether, just like many of those militia nutjobs we occasionally hear about.

…But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?

This isn’t about God’s law, it’s about US tax law – see the difference? And no, we don’t all evade our tax obligations like Holvind did.

Mt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Um…we’ve already been likewise judged: we all have to pay our taxes, otherwise we go to jail.

Christian forgiveness does not mean refusing to criticize wrongdoing by other people.

PS: So, Craig, what’s your judgement of homosexuals? Any comment on what some of your, ahem, fellow Christians have said in their judgement of gays?

I thought we wanted prayer in schools and that the separation of church and state was a bad thing (Plus it never says so in the constitution).

I thought we wanted schools to teach religious dogma parallel to normal classroom activities?

I also, at the base of it, fail to see how collecting tax from someone is impeding freedom of religion. It certainly doesn’t say ‘Congress shall make no law taxing churches.’

Here is the complete text of the First amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Raging Bee,

What I am speaking to is the idea that people get that when a Christian messes up, that exonerates them from the judgment of God. He has sinned and so have you…

Ro 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Whether it be tax issues, etc.

As far as homosexuals are concerned, I will let the Word of God handle that…

1 Cor 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,…

They all need to repent just like the rest of mankind…and bow to Christ as Lord and Savior. No need to single them out. All have sinned.

What I am speaking to is the idea that people get that when a Christian messes up, that exonerates them from the judgment of God.

Nobody gives a flying fig about Hovind’s judgment from God – that is between Hovind and God. It’s Hovind’s judgment from the IRS that we are laughing over.

That, and the fact that fundies are such chumps that they’ll send money to ANY two-bit liar and deceiver who tells them what they want to hear. (snicker) (giggle)

Hey Craig, with all due respect (none), my relationship (or lack thereof) with God is between me and God. And neither of us asked YOU to butt in.

So butt out.

Unless and until you produce some certificate from God annointing you as His Holy Spokesman, I strongly suggest that you sit down, shut up, and stop passing judgment upon anyone else’s relationship to God. After all, you don’t walk any closer to God than anyone else, you are not any holier than anyone else, you don’t know any more about God than anyone else does, and your religious opinions are no more holy or authoritative than anyone else’s.

(sigh)

No WONDER everyone thinks fundies are self-righteous arrogant pride-filled holier-than-thou (literally) pricks.

Lenny,

I am speaking of your judgment, not that of Kent Hovind. Unless you have Christ, you cannot be saved. Repent and trust in Christ as your Lord and your Savior.

Brian, you’re comparing the MAXIMUM STATUTORY jail time penalty Kent Hovind faces for the combined total from about fifty offenses, to the average SERVED jail time for a single offense.

In other words, your math is imaginary.

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Dr. Michael Martin Wrote:

Comment #144694 Posted by Dr. Michael Martin on November 17, 2006 10:42 AM (e) Perhaps someone would like to know why I quit my job in the field of Genetics? Anybody like to know? I can give you three guesses now.….. 1) I lost my mind … 2). I became a Young Earth Creation Scientist and they … 3). I eventually got fed up with Evolution bigotrous behavior and … Dr. Michael Martin

WOW just WOW.

Ok let us address a few things that have been lightly addressed here already and probably are addressed in posts after this one but to make it nice and clear for you DR Martin I’ll spell it out for you.

From Comment # 144651

Dr. Michael Martin Wrote:

Comment #144651 Posted by Dr. Michael Martin on November 17, 2006 9:02 AM (e) .. Every person has two copies of their DNA. The 2 alleles thing really makes no sense, because of recombinations, which means that each human genome was 30,000 genes or 60,000 alleles. Now, if DNA works like Lenny Flank demonstrates, then every person need look the same. ….

This is your reply to Comment # 144418

'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank Wrote:

Comment #144418 Posted by ‘Rev Dr’ Lenny Flank on November 16, 2006 6:26 PM (e)

I wrote my Doctoral Dissertation on Genetics at Yale :).

Good, then maybe you can answer a question for me that AiG wasn’t able to: *ahem* According to the creationists, …

Now the relevant info is

Anyone who understands junior high genetics will know that 8 people have between them a maximum possible of 16 different alleles for each genetic locus

Notice the

16 different alleles for each genetic locus

Lenny is saying that a person has 2 alleles at each locus. 8 people x 2 alleles at each location would be 16 different alleles MAX.

Lenny also is generous in that 16 different alleles because Noah’s 3 sons would share in his and his wife’s alleles reducing that 16 different alleles down to just 10 unique alleles, i.e. the 6 alleles, at any given locus of the sons would match one of their parents alleles at the same position.

When we look at a given locus in today’s society we see that it is not uncommon to have 400 or more different alleles at that location and some have over 700 different alleles.

Now the 400 and 700 refer to the number of different alleles at ONE location within the DNA of humans. We are not talking about the 30,000 different allele locations. Your number of 30,000 = 1 in the terms we are talking about. Any 10th grade student that took biology should understand this. Yet you with your PHD in “Genetics”, with a capital “G” either A) Didn’t understand the concept and made an error in your reply Or B) Wilfully lied with an intention to deceive the few people that read this blog that might not understand basic genetics.

Neither you, nor the idiotic AiG tracks you’ve cut and pasted, have addressed how we can go from 10 alleles at any given location to up to 700 in the course of just 3,300-3,600 years. This is a rate, orders of magnitude, greater then what we see today.

Creation science should have something to say about why mutation rates over the last 3,300 years are hundreds and even thousands of times faster then what we observe and they should also have something to say why, just when we have the ability to see these drastic mutation rates as they happen, we don’t see them now.

So many creationist use the “Only 1% of them mutations are beneficial” line but ignore the fact that their own model requires that that 1% rate be inflated to 100% and that the overall mutation rate also be increased to by 500x-1500x or more. that is 50,000%-150,000%

Oh and look you use the same claim! Comment # 144694

Dr. Michael Martin Wrote:

Comment #144694 Posted by Dr. Michael Martin on November 17, 2006 10:42 AM (e) …Only 1% of them were beneficial, …

As for the bacterial flagellum, with a small “b” and “f” as they are not proper nouns and need not be capitalised in mid sentence, perhaps you should read all the great research that is going on that shows these “certain aspects” that where “literally impossible to break down” might just have been explained. Some how I think you’d, literally, wave them away with your hand just as it was done in the Dover trial. notice I capitalised “D” in Dover because it is a proper noun

In fact please tell us just one of these “certain aspects” you found. Let us see if there is any explanation which you might have missed.

Believe me, I tried every way I knew how, but it was a no go

Good thing good scientists don’t follow your lead.

the speed of light issue could not be counted on as I discovered

BAW HA HA HA HA. You are of course referring to the finding that the speed of light may be slowing down. Gee wiz. The speed of light over the last 14 billion odd years seems to have slowed down by a few percent. Einstein “C” having a slight change over 14 billion years doesn’t bring down General Theory of Relativity, I capitalised the “G” “T” and “R” because it is a proper noun, or the Special Theory of Relativity. The equations work just fine even with a changing “C”. If you mean to use this change in the speed of light to explain a 6,000 year old universe then you are many orders of magnitude off in your assumption on how much the speed of light has slowed down. You might as well say that the expansion rate of the universe can’t be counted on because it is getting faster, which actually explains light getting slower, The fact is we don’t yet know why it is happening but unlike you the real scientists aren’t ready to throw up their hands and say “Oh well, can’t explain it. God must be doing it” and go home and retire.

Comment # 144761

Dr. Michael Martin Wrote:

Comment #144761 Posted by Dr. Michael Martin on November 17, 2006 12:14 PM (e) …Clearly critical analysis is not your strong point :). But thats okay, we all have our flaws. …

Yes and yours include, but are not limited to, 1) Inability to use quotes. Regular quotes ““ or the KwickXML form. 2) Inability to recognise when to use proper case. 3) Inability to recognise when you plagiarise. 4) Inability to use punctuation within a sentence properly or even at all. 5) Inability to spell words right like “palaeontologist” or difficult words like “sitting”, “functions” and “Interact” 6) Creates words like “disacknowledged” 7) Does not know how to use “that’s” or “that is” and insists on using “thats” or “what’s” or “what is” instead of “whats”

And I’m still waiting on you to correct your flaw of not answering Lenny’s or my question about the drastic mutation rate that the YEC position would require. Before you try to say it again your huge cut and paste jobs do not address the issue any more then you cutting and pasting “5” as the answer to “what is 2+2” and the numerous clarification of the questions shows you wrong. Remember 30,000 only = 1 in YECers books.

Comment # 144761

Dr. Michael Martin Wrote:

Comment #144761 Posted by Dr. Michael Martin on November 17, 2006 12:14 PM (e) … Posttraumatic Lymphocytis (sometimes used within the medical community)? You’ve never heard of this. Its a medical condition usually referred to as Acute Lympocytis Leukemia or Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia synonymously, as you may commonly know it as, among other things, but…roughly translated for the layperson - CANCER! …

Funny that…you seem to be the only person in the word to use this term. Google’s count of the term? 1. Yours. Pubmed? 0. That is zero

Let us add that to the words you create like “disacknowledged”

Please learn to atleast use quotes around peoples statements It helps to show what is your statements and what you are replying to.

Comment # 144812

Dr. Michael Martin Wrote:

Comment #144812 Posted by Dr. Michael Martin on November 17, 2006 3:53 PM (e) … Sir, very cute. I have no abstract here. All of these things are my own thoughts on my own subject. I would appreciate a little bit more respect than that, at least as equal respect as I am showing you on the matter…

*bangs my head against the desk*

You wrote a paper without an abstract? WOW … just WOW.

Gentlemen, I apologize for the inaccuracies in my example comparing his maximum possible sentence for his multiple offenses to that of average sentences served for violent offenses. I have “seen” many people who are very excited about this situation and would be extremely pleased if he did indeed receive and serve the maximum statutory, albeit extremely unlikely. What I was trying to point out with this example of “imaginary numbers” was how it seems that people enjoy the punishment, or failing, of those with whom they have a religious bias against much more so than that of fair and unbiased justice. I believe this accurately depicts the intolerance that both of these religions have toward one another.

Why do you say Hovind has a fake Doctorate?? He’s got a real doctorate. Whats the problem? What kind of doctorate would make him real? You don’t need a to be a doctor of anything to understand that no one can prove how old the earth is. So, you villify someone because you don’t agree with his view on science or the IRS? Which is it?

By and large, people believe evolution because they never stop to question the information they recieve. It is presented to them as fact and is believed by the majority, so therefore, it must be true. I used to believe it too till I started asking questions about it. By the way, Scientists DO NOT like to be questioned about problems with evolution.

One should wonder why the science of evolution refuses to be questioned or made to answer for its claims.

Those that dare challenge evolution as science are considdered idots and that their science is fake with no real challenge of specifics, just a wild claim and no proof. Just a war of words.

Kent Hovind’s unbiblical false views on the IRS got him in big trouble (and rightly so) does not make his sciece bad nor him evil. It is unfortunate that he brought reproach not only to himself, but to his cause, Christians, and his family for his stance on the IRS.

I don’t know where he lied at all. He admitted that he didn’t pay taxes. He just felt he didn’t owe it.

Also, where is anyone’s proof that Hovind rips people off. That’s slander. His seminars are free but sells videos that are not copywrited (you can view them on YouTube or google videos). The taxpayer is getting ripped off when a sudent cannot graduate unless he believes a theory as a fact of science.

Hovind brings out that PS science text books still print stuff that was proven wrong 150 years ago. Why doesn’t anyone get after the textbook publishers? What do you say to that? That doesn’t bother you???

Comment # 146474

Brian Wrote:

Comment #146474 Posted by Brian on November 25, 2006 10:57 PM (e) Why do you say Hovind has a fake Doctorate?? He’s got a real doctorate. Whats the problem? What kind of doctorate would make him real? You don’t need a to be a doctor of anything to understand that no one can prove how old the earth is. So, you villify someone because you don’t agree with his view on science or the IRS? Which is it? …

1) We say Hovind has a fake Doctorate because his doctorate is from “Patriot University” a well known diploma mill. 2) He does NOT have a real doctorate. Patriot University is not a properly accredited university. In fact the accrediting body of PU is also a phony organization. 3) Just because you don’t like the evidence doesn’t make it not true. What exactly is your problem with the age of the earth and the many different lines of evidence pointing to a 4 billion year old earth? 4) We will make it clear when someone is dishonest and in this case criminal. The negative information that is presented about Hovind is accurate.

Comment # 146474

Brian Wrote:

Comment #146474 Posted by Brian on November 25, 2006 10:57 PM (e) … By and large, people believe evolution because they never stop to question the information they recieve. It is presented to them as fact and is believed by the majority, so therefore, it must be true. I used to believe it too till I started asking questions about it. By the way, Scientists DO NOT like to be questioned about problems with evolution. …

Funny you should use the term “By and large”. You, yourself, point out that your statement is an imprecise statement.

Evolution maybe believed by masses because they don’t question the information they receive but the same can be said about gravity and many mundane things. Hell many people believe the seasons are due to the earth’s orbit being closer to sun. What the common people believe isn’t the issue. Evolution is true because of the multiple lines of independent evidence that support it.

Scientists don’t like to be 2nd guessed about evolution from ignorant fools that don’t care to learn about the topic they are criticizing. Most arguments have been refuted and these refutations are easily accessible over the net at sites like talkorigins. Please tell us your “questions” about evolution or are you afraid to expose yourself as someone who has not researched their own complaint?

Comment # 146474

Brian Wrote:

Comment #146474 Posted by Brian on November 25, 2006 10:57 PM (e) … One should wonder why the science of evolution refuses to be questioned or made to answer for its claims. …

Science always questions itself. It is what science is about. What science doesn’t do is question itself over and over about issue that have answers that fit the data very well. Where the data is lacking or in question science investigates and refines its understanding. This includes evolution.

Comment # 146474

Brian Wrote:

Comment #146474 Posted by Brian on November 25, 2006 10:57 PM (e) … Those that dare challenge evolution as science are considdered idots and that their science is fake with no real challenge of specifics, just a wild claim and no proof. Just a war of words. …

Those that dare challenge evolution as science using the bible as a science text book are considered idiots (note spell check your posts it makes you look smarter then you are if you do). Please give us some of your evidence that evolution is false. Seems you are making the wild claim with no proof here.

Comment # 146474

Brian Wrote:

Comment #146474 Posted by Brian on November 25, 2006 10:57 PM (e) … Kent Hovind’s unbiblical false views on the IRS got him in big trouble (and rightly so) does not make his sciece bad nor him evil. It is unfortunate that he brought reproach not only to himself, but to his cause, Christians, and his family for his stance on the IRS. …

Tell Kent that. He believes his not paying taxes is supported by the bible and god. What makes his “science” (again please use spell check) bad is that it is grossly inaccurate at best and most likely a known lie by him.

Comment # 146474

Brian Wrote:

Comment #146474 Posted by Brian on November 25, 2006 10:57 PM (e) … I don’t know where he lied at all. He admitted that he didn’t pay taxes. He just felt he didn’t owe it. …

Are you referring to his case or his ministry and museum?

Comment # 146474

Brian Wrote:

Comment #146474 Posted by Brian on November 25, 2006 10:57 PM (e) … Also, where is anyone’s proof that Hovind rips people off. That’s slander. His seminars are free but sells videos that are not copywrited (you can view them on YouTube or google videos). The taxpayer is getting ripped off when a sudent cannot graduate unless he believes a theory as a fact of science. …

He rips off his employees by not paying their proper entitlements. His seminars may be free sometimes but he’s charged organisations, including churches, before and refused to provide them with a invoice so they can claim them as expenses.

Comment # 146474

Brian Wrote:

Comment #146474 Posted by Brian on November 25, 2006 10:57 PM (e) … Hovind brings out that PS science text books still print stuff that was proven wrong 150 years ago. Why doesn’t anyone get after the textbook publishers? What do you say to that? That doesn’t bother you???

Please show us this “stuff” that was proven wrong 150 years ago. Please say what text books are saying it and why you think it is “proven wrong”

You are just making wild claim with no proof. Seeing you complained that is what scientists are doing it make you a little hypocritical even if your statements where true.

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