Dr. Dino gets 10 years

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Convicted felon Kent Hovind’s sentencing was today, and again the Pensacola News-Journal has the story:

Pensacola evangelist Kent Hovind was sentenced Friday afternoon to 10 years in prison on charges of tax fraud.

After a lengthy sentencing hearing that last 5 1/2 hours, U.S. District Judge Casey Rodgers ordered Hovind also:

– Pay $640,000 in restitution to the Internal Revenue Service.

– Pay the prosecution’s court costs of $7,078.

– Serve three years parole once he is released from prison.

Not knowing anything about sentencing, I had figured Hovind would get time already served plus probation or something. I guess not. Probably with good behavior this will become 5 years or less of actual prison time. The moral of the story: living in your own personal alternate reality works for only so long. That, and don’t tick off the IRS.

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A lawyer on Infidels noted that Federal sentences tend not to be reduced much (if any) for good behavior, and suggested that Hovind would serve at least 85% of the sentence.

RBH

After this and Kitzmiller It seems that when the chips are on the line, the, um, unnamed designer, doesn’t exactly have his footsoliders backs.

Lying for Jesus doesn’t pay…

doesn’t this make him a martyr?

doesn’t this make him a martyr?

To the IRS, maybe. Scientists had nothing to do with this.

And anyway, it seems like the threshold for martyrdom is getting pretty low these days. If someone gets thrown to lions, sure, they deserve to be called a martyr. But ending up in prison for years of lawbreaking, threatening government employees, and ignoring all warnings and chances to make things right, is something else entirely.

Nick — Maybe his followers will now call him a ‘martyr’, but surely the IRS will not. They will simply quote scripture along the lines of

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s…

Hovind was quoted in the article as saying that “thousands” of his supporters would pay his fine.

Wouldn’t these contributions be considered income on which he would have to pay tax? Furthermore, how would he set up a contribution drop box from prison?

Funny or should I more accurately say appauling the lack of personal responsibility for ones actions. Great role model for all those kids out there.

OMG! Who is going to take care of all his poor dino’s for the next ten long, long years? Hovind will probably have to sell them to Ken Ham, and the dino’s will have to walk all the way from FL to KY… it will be another “Trail Of Tears”, only this time they will be tears of laughter.

Perhaps Hovind’s dinos are haunted by SATAN and just like an intelligently designed virus, they will infect Ham’s Dinos too. Couldn’t happen to a better bunch of knuckleheads.

Jeez! If Ham does go down the same way, maybe there is a god after all!

Nah… but it would be funny!

Please evaluate the law that was changed by the judge at the time of the closing arguments to read in essence that the “crime” of structuring is applied to an amount less than $10,000 instead of “more than.” Please evaluate that the judge would not allow Supreme Court rulings into this case (Cheek) that completely nulifies the prosecution. Please hold onto your own civil rights as we all wave good bye to them.

“If it’s just money the IRS wants, there are thousands of people out there who will help pay the money they want so I can go back out there and preach,” Hovind said.

Sociopath.

“Please evaluate the law, blah, blah, blah…” Evaluate? Wha..? “Supreme Court rulings into this case (Cheek) that completely nulifies the prosecution.” Next time you visit Hovind in prison, be sure he gets your “sound legal opinion”.

I am not a proponent of YEC, but for the record and against speculations or talk categorizing Hovind with other YECers or all YECers, the following should be acknowledged.

From Wikipedia’s page on Hovind:

“Criticism

From creationists

Hovind has come into conflict with other young earth creationists, who believe that many of his arguments are invalid and, consequently, undermine their cause. One in particular, Answers in Genesis, has publicly criticized him [62] after he had criticized AiG’s article, “Arguments we think creationists should NOT use”.[63] In the letter Carl Wieland, Ken Ham, and Jonathan Sarfati noted that some claims made by Hovind are “fraudulent” and “mistakes in facts and logic which do the creationist cause no good.”[62] He is also criticized by Creation Ministries International (formerly AiG Australia). Their article “Maintaining Creationist Integrity”[64] responds to Hovind’s criticism of the original Answers in Genesis article.

Hovind who has stated carbon dating is unreliable, was criticized by Greg Neyman of Answers In Creation noting that in his statements “Hovind goes on to show that he knows absolutely nothing about the science of Carbon Dating.”[65] In fact, as Neyman explained, Hovind’s claim that “scientists assume the amount of carbon-14 is constant” is wrong and Neyman writes “there are many periods of decreasing C-14, which disproves his theory that the earth is young based on C-14 equilibrium.”[65]”

[Fx: shadenfreude]

Probably with good behavior this will become 5 years or less of actual prison time.

As far as I know, the feds don’t give parole and they also only allow a maximum of 54 days/year “ good time.” Ol’ Kent’s gonna be doin’ over 8, total.

This sentence is in line with other similar cases, although I like to think Kent pissed off the judge by smugly asking: “How would YOU know about this, your honor? WERE YOU THERE?!?!?!”

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s…

Hmm. So IRS = Ceasar. That seems about right.

Please hold onto your own civil rights as we all wave good bye to them.

I am willing to agree with you on a narrow point; the rightwing have done their best to destroy most civil liberty that is the true core of America. We liberals have been intimidated by threats of being “traitors” for too long. The Constitution was a liberal document written by liberal men. The extremist elements; whether from the rightwing libritarian, the “social conservative” fundamentalist, or the neofacist oppose the protection of individual civil rights. They unite to reject and attack public education.

However, the leftwing is too happy to applaud when the radical right is limited in their political expression.

Christian Dominionists are balanced by New Age leftists and such neoLuddites as PETA and the semi-group “ELF.” The overall record is that the right is far more deadly than the left, from Oklahoma to New York. Even the war in Iraq would have been impossible without the rightwing backing for George “dubua.”

May they rot.

Gary Hurd Wrote:

the semi-group “ELF.”

Erisian Liberation Front? fnord

I am not a proponent of YEC, but for the record and against speculations or talk categorizing Hovind with other YECers or all YECers, the following should be acknowledged

It’s always interesting to see how the mental defects that lead people to deny evolution or support ID manifest in other areas. That some other YECs disagree with Hovind on some issues doesn’t change the fact that he’s a YEC. As for “categorizing Hovind with … all YECers”, this displays a failure to grasp the concept of categorization. I am “categorized with all human beings”, but that doesn’t mean that I agree with other human beings on any particular subject, or that I have same height or eye color as “all human beings”, or any other trait that is not a defining characteristic of human beings.

Of course, in addition to being incredibly dimwitted, this troll who claims to be a “FCD” is also incredibly dishonest. The opening paragraph of the wikipedia article says that Hovind is a “prominent ‘Young Earth’ creationist”, something the troll fails to mention, let alone “acknowledge”.

Christian Dominionists are balanced by New Age leftists and such neoLuddites as PETA and the semi-group “ELF.”

That’s ridiculous; they are not balanced, either in numbers or political strength. And there’s nothing particularly “leftist” about “New Age”, and certainly not PETA, which is authoritarian. Because of the near-total exclusion of left voices by the corporate media, few Americans have any idea what “leftist” means. If you’re looking for American leftists, go to www.zmag.org, where you won’t find anything about chakras or pets.

Hmm. So IRS = Ceasar. That seems about right.

Jesus’s “render” statement was specifically about taxes. And how do you manage to misspell Caesar when there were two correct spellings on you screen?

Oy … make that “your”. Not that my own typo invalidates my point.

What an idiot Hovind is. Taped phone conversations played during his sentencing showed him threatening the judge and prosecutor, and attempting to hide assets from the government. No wonder they gave him 10 years.

A decade for ‘Dr. Dino’:

A newly remorseful Pensacola evangelist, who still disputes the government’s right to make him pay taxes, was sentenced Friday afternoon to 10 years in prison on federal tax charges.

His wife, Jo, will be sentenced March 1 on charges of evading bank-reporting requirements.

Before his sentencing, a tearful Kent Hovind compared his situation to that of the lion and the mouse in Aesop’s Fables.

“I feel like the mouse,” Hovind told U.S. District Judge Casey Rodgers. “I stand here in great fear of the power of this court. Your decision can destroy my life, my ministry and my grandchildren.”

Hovind’s courtroom comments were in stark contrast to more-combative statements he made in recent telephone calls from Escambia County Jail.

In a recording of one of the telephone conversations played in court Friday, Hovind said the Internal Revenue Service, presiding judge and prosecutor broke the law by going after him, and there were things he could do “to make their lives miserable.”

Comparing himself to a buffalo in a lion fight, Hovind’s voice was heard saying “As long as I have some horns, I’m going to swing. As long as I have some hoofs, I’m going to kick. As long as I have some teeth, I’m going to fight. The lion’s going to know he’s been in a fight.”…

…The recordings, compiled by the IRS from phone conversations from jail, showed Kent Hovind was trying to hide assets from the government, Assistant U.S. Attorney Michelle Heldmyer said. In one phone conversation played in court, Kent Hovind was heard to advise a business partner to put only “what you can afford to lose” in a church account.

Right now, the PNJ has a BROKEN LINK to the audio of these calls Hovind made running his stupid mouth. But, I suspect they’ll have the link fixed soon, and I can’t wait to listen to him blather on about how he’s going to “fight” like a buffalo against lions. Hilarious.

Comparing himself to a buffalo in a lion fight

Such “fights” nearly always end with a bunch of plump, sleepy lions near a vulture-covered buffalo carcass. Good analogy.

buuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrp!!!

Next.…

I dunno if it’s entirely wise for YECcers to be outing themselves on this thread. With this clear evidence that the IRS is controlled by the eeevil Darwinist Conspiracy ™, if I were they, I’d be keeping my head down and making sure my receipts are filed in chronological order.

No more Jack Chick comics from Hovind for a while then:

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts[…]/0055_01.asp

[schadenfreude] First it was Be-He-He-He in Dover, now as a belated yule present Ho-Ho-Ho-vind in prison.

What’s next - Do’h-Do’h-Do’h-mbski in drag? [/schadenfreude]

It is almost a shame it’s for real, because it is very tempting to continue and make Hovind the butt of prison jokes.

“Please evaluate .…”

From the statute: § 103.63 Structured transactions. No person shall for the purpose of evading the reporting requirements of § 103.22 with respect to such transaction: (a) Cause or attempt to cause a domestic financial institution to fail to file a report required under § 103.22; (b) Cause or attempt to cause a domestic financial institution to file a report required under § 103.22 that contains a material omission or misstatement of fact; or (c) Structure (as that term is defined in § 103.11(n) of this part) or assist in structuring, or attempt to structure or assist in structuring, any transaction with one or more domestic financial institution.

Pretty straightforward; no mention of more than or less than $10,000. The “structuring” of the transaction was to to make it less than $10,000 for the purpose of evading the reporting requirements by “cause[ing] a domestic financial institution to fail to file a report required under § 103.22. It’s plain as day a violation of the law as enacted. No miscarriage of justice here, just a slam-dunk case.

But thanks for playing.

One wonders at what legal advice Hovind was receiving, surly his lawyers would have told him it was folly to challenge the IRS in such a way.

Naive as he was to the expectations of the IRS, I can’t help feeling sorry for him, 10 years is an awfully long time. Too long IMO.

stevaroni Wrote:

Carol;

My lucky day! Since my parents brought me up as one of the mumbling-in-latin faction instead of the wandering-in-the-desert clan, I get to use the new, annotated volume II version of the Good Book.

Apparently, all I have to do is “Do unto others as I would have them do unto me”, which is, frankly, a whole lot easier than preparing an entire world for the messianic era.

Selling all you have and giving the money to the poor’s pretty tough, though. Thank God we have role models like Kent Hovind to show us how it’s done.

Wheee! Another religious war!

The passage in Matthew 7:12 (NIV)says: “In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets”.

My italics, obviously.

Let the bickering begin.

I’ll start. It’s a good idea. But’s it no more heaven-sent than any other early philosophy.

chance Wrote:

One wonders at what legal advice Hovind was receiving, surly his lawyers would have told him it was folly to challenge the IRS in such a way.

Why, he was taking advice from Glen Stoll,, who got shut down by the government a couple of years ago for advising lots of people to do the same thing.

To all of you who think this is funny, you are sick individuals, 10 years in prison ? while murderers like O.J. are walking around free. This is not a violent criminal, he didn’t even steal, the money was given to him, He really should be tax exempt under our laws, not even needing a 501c3, and this money never was the private bankers collection agency’s in the first place. The only thing he should have done is pay payroll taxes. Just my 2 cents.

To quote from the movie “Grosse Point Blank:”

“Ten Years. Ten years! tenyears. TEN! YEARS!! TEN years! Ten YEARS!!…”

The only thing he should have done is pay payroll taxes.

You’re being modest: 58 counts and 640,000 USD of stolen cash.

Yea said “ The only thing he should have done is pay payroll taxes. Just my 2 cents.”

Look… if you listen to the phone recordings, he is comparing the IRS to the Nazis, accusing everyone else of breaking the law…

I would agree with you if he had been found guilty of tucking a few bucks away for a rainy day. I’d even entertain the thought of a shorter sentence that matched his penitence.

He is still conning others from his jail cell. While on one hand, he claims everyone else is corrupt, on the other he tells his son to start moving finances around to hide money.

Did he steal? Yea he did. He stole from me. I pay my taxes. I pay for the roads he drives on, the public transportation his workers took to get to work, etc. He stole from me, and now he has to pay the price.

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