Flock of Dodos: Behind Modern Creationism & Intelligent Design


flock%20of%20dodos.jpg Bill Dembski ‘discusses’ a new book, to be released soon, titled Flock of Dodos: Behind Modern Creationism & Intelligent Design Cambridge House Press, Inc. (release date 02.28.07) By Barrett Brown, Jon P. Alston

The book description may explain why the book is almost outselling some of Dembski’s own books, before it has been released…

Book Description

What is creationism? Is it science, theology, both, neither? Who’s behind it? What does it mean for Western Civilization? And why should you give a damn in the first place? National Lampoon veteran Barrett Brown and Professor of Sociology Jon P. Alston, Ph.D, answer these questions — and perhaps one or two others — in a superbly unorthodox, serenely offensive and splendidly hilarious look at the forces behind the most talked-about pseudo-theory in modern history.

In Flock of Dodos, the reader will discover ominous parallels between Billy Joel’s greaser anthem Uptown Girl and chief intelligent design proponent William Dembski, the wholly non-Christian origins of the United States, the goofy history of the creation science movement, secrets of a happy marriage to anti-feminist icon Phylis Schafly,stunning evidence that William Jennings Bryan might not have been all that bright, the the three interesting things that occurred in 2004, and the true nature of the millennia-old Conspiracy of Nonsense that threatens the very fiber of Western Civilization.

From the Publisher

“Flock of Dodos is in the great tradition of debunkers with a sense of humor, from Thomas Paine to Mark Twain.” — Allen Dershowitz

“Jesus Christ and lesbian monkeys in the same book. Brilliant. ‘Smart’ and ‘funny’ in the same book. Genius.” — Cenk Uyger, The Young Turks, Air America Radio

“Simultaneously smart, insightful, and hilarious! Even though refuting creationism is like shooting tiny Noah’s Arks in a barrel, Brown and Alston dissect the movement with a wholly unique wit and perspective. The best book I’ve read in years.” — Bob Cesca, The Huffington Post, Founder, Camp Chaos Entertainment

“Here’s the problem with America’s born-again wackos: only a gifted comic is capable of describing them, but no one with a sense of humor can stomach being around them. That’s why there are so few books like Flock of Dodos. With their painstaking attention to historical detail and amusingly violent writing style, Brown and Alston have given the religious right exactly the righteous, merciless fragging it deserves. I wish I could tie James Dobson down and make him eat every page.” — Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone Magazine, author of Spanking the Donkey

And as thechristiancynic observes

Anyone have the inside scoop on what the “ominous parallels” are between Uptown Girl and Dembski? My curiosity is piqued, but not enough to where I would actually want to read such a book.

Any thoughts?


The comments at UD are funny. Nobody has read the book, but they immediately pan the book. This seems to be pretty standard. Note that when the IDiots put out a book the pro-science side actually read and Fisk the book.

check the topic comments at UD. Based on what I read there so far UD means Ultra Delusional. I appears they haven’t learned that being religious doesn’t mean you have to be stupid.

That’s the first link I’ve followed to UD for a while. I gave up on the place after Kitzmiller, because I was always expunged for asking questions. Lurking without being able to participate was profoundly depressing.

It hasn’t changed much. Apparently, farting loudly is admirable but a work of satire is arrogant and stupid. The fact that there is so very much to laugh about in ID is proof of its imminent conquest and evolution’s last gasp.

UD’s not a very enlightening place - I read the discussion about evolutionary explanations for music, and nobody seemed that interested in the subject. Some brave souls posted links to current ideas (which are fascinating, as thoughtful musings on beauty so frequently are), but the only responses were of the calibre that ‘there were too many theories and none of them has been proved so they must all be wrong’. No “This is an interesting idea, but it fails because…”, no “If that were true, then we wouldn’t see…” - no linear thinking at all. None. They spotted that the idea of meme is fatuous (so kudos for that) but then slandered evolution through guilt by association. Shame, there’s plenty of good eating on a dead meme.

Some also said that “We were created to love music”, but nobody seemed interested enough to discuss that either – although, unenlightened materialist that I am, I can’t offhand see what discussion is possible. Especially since the nature, purpose and motives of the designer are off-limits. If you can’t ask what, how or why, then where can you go?

It occurs to me that I’ve been rattling around creationists online for about twenty years now, and the atmosphere of intellectual sterility hasn’t shifted one millibar.

(And _why_ are they still fixated on the flagellum?)

…because I was always expunged for asking questions. Lurking without being able to participate was profoundly depressing.

…exactly. It’s quite impossible to try to make an argument over there… in part because DaveScot and his friends don’t allow any of your arguments through, in part because many of the people over there are incredibly dense. I mean honestly, I don’t understand it. I can imagine these people sitting at their computers just lovin how smart they are and how they make all the “Darwinists” who try to make arguments over there look so foolish… it really makes me wanna throw up.

Indeed. Dembski starts a thread about open access to scientific journals, and his minions point out that a) most journals are accessible if you know where to look, and b) lack of “free” access is related to publishers needing to charge to cover publication costs. The conversation just dies. No one pushes their point too hard (they’ll get banned, like me) and Dembski never admits that they’re right and he’s wrong.

Most of the talk is about how evolutionary theory is about to be supplanted by ID. Yet no evidence is offered, no scientific scholarship is performed. Only misquotes, bragging about “victories”, social issues and religious discussions, and a lot of talk about biology from non-biologists, the height of arrogance. (IMO)

When Jesus comes in the light of His Glory, you won’t be saying those terrible things, I just hope that everyone of you will repent! You’ll have to bow the knee anyway, just do it now before it’s too late! I would not want to be in the your shoes when Jesus comes to judge! Just think about that!

;)A painting in a museum probably hears more foolish remarks than anything else in the world.

A great post please keep going thanks

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