I’m not sure what they are, but there is apparently a site offering free hovinds: FreeHovind.Com. Can anybody tell me what a hovind is before I order a free one?
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I notice one section is dedicated to having a petition for the President to pardon DR Hovind. (after all, Clinton pardoned some really terrible people). However, the pardons by this Administration may be used up by Scooter and possible future former administration aides and staff and officials.
This is a hovind:
http://www.evangelicalright.com/JesusDino.jpg
I think it’s supposed to be something like a centaur.
Free hovinds? Sounds interesting… Even though I ain’t got no purpose for one, it’s free nonetheless! And even though I also don’t know what a hovind is, I’ll still get one, since they are (you guessed it) for free.
I think it must be something like a “free radical”. As in the chant “Free (all) Radicals” in the 60s.
Is is like those free creationist textbooks put out by Harun Yahya? If so, it’s grossly overpriced.
I’m curious, is the site offering these Free Hovinds in any way connected to a solicitor working for a bank in Nigeria?
For some reason, the idea of receiving a “free hovind” reminds me of a line from a Woody Allen movie. To paraphrase, “The food is terrible, but the portions are huge!”
There’s no such thing as a free hovind. But I hear that Dembski will throw one in with an order of Jello.
Mmm. … What flavor of Jello?
I went to the site, and though I didn’t want to register and login, I do have a great idea for their Forum:
They should immedediately start praying that Kent gets sacrificed in prison, so he can be a true martyer! Just like the saints and The Lord God too!
But seriously… If there really WERE a God, there would be a Keep Hovind In Jail Longer Site. And I would be able to click on my computer screen and send him a couple of hundred volts, just for the fun of it.
At the least, you must get the free videos from this site. I downloaded them long ago after I saw them on local TV. I couldn’t tolerate an entire session on TV, so I thought if I had them on my computer, then, I would be able to manage small portions at a time. It is amazing how small those portions turn out to be. It takes but a few minutes before my brains hurt and I begin to feel nauseated. The Junior High School level ridicule, non sequiturs, completely ridiculous science, and enormous leaps of “logic” will soon leave your head spinning. Note the audience’s expressions and you will see evidence of a similar problem.
Hovey you be my woman now. Just pick up the soap.
“Free hovinds? Sounds interesting… Even though I ain’t got no purpose for one, it’s free nonetheless! And even though I also don’t know what a hovind is, I’ll still get one, since they are (you guessed it) for free.”
They may be free, but I hear that the upkeep is pretty expensive. Not to mention their annoying habits and potential side effects (such as causing your head to implode). Get an Irish Setter instead — they are far more intelligent and much better company. They also leave less of a mess.
Here is another site offering free hovinds - the Norwegian telephone book
http://www.gulesider.no/tk/search.c?q=hovind
There are 792 of them with various spelling variants: Hovind, Hovin, Hofvind etc. and including those who have Hovind as a middle name. There are also Hovinds in Denmark but I haven’t checked how common they are there.
Does Kent Hovind have his last name from Scandinavia and, if so, from which country?
It’s a really special flavor that can only be tasted by people who have faith that the flavor exists.
I live in Canada so would I have to pay any kind of a tax on a free hovind?
You won’t like it. It tastes like disappearing ink.
I live in Canada so would I have to pay any kind of a tax on a free hovind?
No, once you are the proud owner of a Hovind, you will ever have to pay tax ever again!
I don’t see why there is so much animosity towards Hovind? Maybe he’s right…throw a stone up a dark alley,and if you hear a squeal,you know you’ve hit something.If so,he seems to have hurt many people(with his stones) who’s names he’s never mentioned .Maybe the thing to do is ask why? If his stones(facts&figures)had no substance…they wouldn’t hurt! If they had no substance,he should have been debated into oblivion by now!!On the contrary,it seems other ways had to be proposed to stop him.I’ve heard a lot of ad hominid attacks on Hovind,but not many concerted efforts to address the points he makes(albeit..some of the points he makes,have been picked up from dubious interpretations) As far as his humor…well he says his seminars are for all ages,so its to hold their attention. I don’t think Hovind utters absolute truth…but then who does?? He condenses quite alot of important information from professional academics,and i think that instead of ridiculing the messenger,the focus should be on addressing the message.
Hovind is a shameless liar and cheat. Why shouldn’t that make honest people angry?
Hovind makes some points?
Bill, pick out your favorite Hovind “point” and check it out on TalkOrigins’ Index of Creationist Claims. I’m sure you’ll find it there, along with a concerted effort to address it.
On the outside chance that you don’t find it, or if you just want to give the Panda’s Thumb regulars an opportunity to have some fun, then bring it over here. We’ll happily address any Hovind “point” that you think may have been ignored.
By the way, if a liar and a tax fraud is called a liar and a tax fraud, that’s not an ad hominem attack. (It may be an ad hominid attack, but that’s a completely different issue.)
We all look forward to your Hovind advocacy. Please bring his “points” over here one “point” at a time. Wait until one is debunked before you bring the next.
Oh this site is priceless!
I especially like the “Latest Official Blogs” postings, like the one named “Update from Bunk Three”.
You could simply not make this kind of stuff up! Nobody would believe you!
Meanwhile, out from bunk three pour ever greater gems of Ken’s undaunted wisdom, like this one …
Yup, that one came right out of the clear, blue sky there, Ken.
But fear not, gentle readers, even in the absence of out fearless Ken, somehow his team soldiers on…
Hosting? Does that mean paid admissions? If Saturday is the busy day there, that means that Erick has a thriving theme park there, “hosting” maybe 200 visitors a week.
I’ll put money down that “Eric” makes damned sure that he checks the numbers twice when he sends in a check for the payroll taxes every single week, probably by certified mail with a delivery confirmation requested .
I followed their link to the site they acknowledged as the source of their dinosaur images.
Strangely enough, the artist sorts his work by the Era, Period and Epoch they come from. He also gives dates like “270 million years ago (Early Permian)”.
You have to admire the flexibility of a mind that can rationalise away such facts in order to hold on to concepts that amount to nothing more than wishful thinking.
Reminds me of exactly the same joke, some years ago, concerning the song Free Nelson Mandela by the Specials AKA.
Mind you, I’m certainly not doing any sort of comparison between Hovind and Mandela…
Well yeah. He throws stones at reason, so people who value reason don’t like him.
Yes, he’s hurt a lot of people. He’s actively participated them in steering them away from the last two or three centuries of progress in understanding how the universe works in favor of his interpretation of a fairytale. That’s hurting people. He’s also lied and cheated in several different directions at once, not the least of which was his attempt at defrauding the government.
The “substance” of his stones is to mislead people. He has been “debated into oblivion”; nobody who understands anything about how science, or even simple logic, works takes his ideas seriously. Unfortunately, that doesn’t mean that nobody at all gives his blatherings any credence.
Then you’re clearly not one of the people who has kept up with rpogress. It’s exactly the kind of appeal to ignorance that makes Hovind and his ilk capable of continuing to be taken seriously by some while intentionally either lying outright or lying by omission. The fact is, there’s not a single point that Hovind has ever made that hasn’t been addressed, usually on multiple occasions and frequently by very reputable people. The problem isn’t, therefore, that his points haven’t been addressed, it’s that you don’t know that they’ve been addressed.
Hovind thinks he does, absolutely.
The message is a steaming pile of manure delivered by an individual whose ethics have landed him a decade-long prison sentence. He applies the same ethical standards to his arguments regarding evolutionary biology. Just as he withheld money owed to the government, he withholds facts from his audiences. He doesn’t condense any “important information from professional academics.” Not a shred of it. What he does is attempt to advance a long-disproven idea (I won’t even stoop to calling it a hypothesis, since it can’t be tested) through the most disreputable of methods.
Hovind is nothing more than a common criminal and liar. It speaks volumes about his remaining supporters that they’re willing to give him a pass on this when the man essentially made his living by making promises in the first place. One thing I will say for him; as con-men go, he has a tremendous talent for picking out his pigeons.
Funny site. They have only 6 signatures on the petition so far. You think we could name them? Were YOU one of them, bill?
I got a grin out of an apparent creationist ignoramus using the word “hominid”. Thanks, bill.
The substance of his stones is, like i said, his facts and figures…and he certainly was not debated into oblivion. He was still debating (if he could find someone who would debate him)up until his problems. There are plenty of people who understand science&logic who refute Darwinism!! And if you want to talk about logic…If you believe the Big Bang theory (in a Darwinian sense).Then you believe all the matter&energy (as well as space and time) came into existence out of nothing, from nowhere & for no reason! Breaking at least two very fundamental laws…Cause&Effect and the first law of Thermodynamics (energy can neither be created or destroyed).Then you have to believe that instead of exploding and expanding “forever”, it “arranged” itself into matter, then “arranged” the matter into a clockwise Universe (a neat trick!) just right for humans. Breaking the second Law of Thermodynamics (Entropy: every thing breaks down into less complex forms).All without outside intelligence!.…Does that seem logical to you??! These LAWS have never being observed to have been broken, so it takes assumption to believe otherwise. Of course you have to except it weather it seems logical to you or not, because you have a bias’s toward the idea of a Creator. Just like i, as a Christian, have a bias against a theory that excludes design by a Creator. The trick is(and no i haven’t succeeded in accomplishing it yet)is to set the bias aside, and look at the facts. Like those mentioned above, which without a prior bias would be inconceivable to believe they happened by pure random chance. Not just the insurmountable odds (probability weighs heavily against evolution)it has to overcome, but also with the breakdown of reason needed to believe it. You can start with those two Brian (matter from nothing & and complexity from chaos).…but Please, before you start with multi-universes,bubble-universes,and all the rest of the contorted logic needed to escape the conclusion of a Creator…Be aware in your examples of what can be SHOWN to be true, and what is ASSUMED to be true
The substance of his stones is, like i said, his facts and figures…and he certainly was not debated into oblivion. He was still debating (if he could find someone who would debate him)up until his problems. There are plenty of people who understand science&logic who refute Darwinism!! And if you want to talk about logic…If you believe the Big Bang theory (in a Darwinian sense).Then you believe all the matter&energy (as well as space and time) came into existence out of nothing, from nowhere & for no reason! Breaking at least two very fundamental laws…Cause&Effect and the first law of Thermodynamics (energy can neither be created or destroyed).Then you have to believe that instead of exploding and expanding “forever”, it “arranged” itself into matter, then “arranged” the matter into a clockwise Universe (a neat trick!) just right for humans. Breaking the second Law of Thermodynamics (Entropy: every thing breaks down into less complex forms).All without outside intelligence!.…Does that seem logical to you??! These LAWS have never being observed to have been broken, so it takes assumption to believe otherwise. Of course you have to except it weather it seems logical to you or not, because you have a bias’s toward the idea of a Creator. Just like i, as a Christian, have a bias against a theory that excludes design by a Creator. The trick is(and no i haven’t succeeded in accomplishing it yet)is to set the bias aside, and look at the facts. Like those mentioned above, which (without prior bias) would be inconceivable to believe they happened by pure random chance. Not just the insurmountable odds (probability weighs heavily against evolution)it has to overcome, but also with the breakdown of reason needed to believe it without that bias. You can start with those two Brian (matter from nothing & and complexity from chaos).…but Please, before you start with multi-universes,bubble-universes,and all the rest of the contorted logic needed to escape the conclusion of a Creator…Be aware in your examples of what can be SHOWN to be true, and what is ASSUMED to be true
opp’s.…sorry about the double posting
Re “We know who the Romans were, […]”
Trying to resist the obvious punchline. Resist… Resist…
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billy got conned, an he don’ care.
billy got conned, an he don’ care.
billy got conned, an he don’ care.
his master’s gone away.
I can’t believe the time you invested in poor old bill, Vy. I’m sure he won’t appreciate it.
Neither can I, and neither do I. But I had insomnia and needed a break from writing a paper. A guy can only parse through so much data before he wants to do something verbal, and I guess I got pretty verbal there. :)
i is liek caek :D is u want caek wit me bill? I LUV JEESUS!!!!!1
Dear Dr. J.M.:
Eternal life is free in Christ Jesus. Otherwise, you’ll have to pay your own way.
Dear BlackCat:
Yes, exactly! It’s just like trying to explain light to a blind man, or explaining algebra to a dead man, or trying to explain common sense to an over-educated stooge.
i think that you should free Hovind because he is doing far to much good in jail.
I once considered the possibility of evolution, even bothered reading the book “The Rise of Life”. I’m very well familiar with the Theory of evolution. After seeing Kent’s seminars and views of contemporary scientists who increasingly doubt the evolution notion with more new discoveries, I now realize what an elaborate fairy tale evolution really is. It’s not science, just pure science fiction. All evolution teaches is shape shifting in real super slow motion from one life form to another more complex life form. Sounds like a scenario from Harry Potter. The Creation Account immensely makes better sense. Not just scientifically, but in terms of common sense. I’ve alwayS believed in God, though evolution shook my faith a little, but always knew man’s flawed reasoning doesn’t compare to God’s infinite wisdom. Kent Hovind cleared up a lot of nagging questions I had of the creation vs. evolution account.
Methinks you’re a lying scumbag:
because that’s not what “evolution teaches”, insofar as any natural process is capable of teaching anything.
Moreover, all scientists in biology support evolution, a 150 year old theory that has proven its worth time and again. (All, with the usual exceptions of nutcases that you see in all walks of life.)
And saying that it isn’t science doesn’t make it so. All scientists support that biology is a science. (Again, with the usual exceptions. :-P)
Matthew wrote:
Common sense also told us that the earth was flat and that everything in the universe revolved around it. Both of those assertions also supported by a literal interpretation of the Bible were also proved incorrect.
I don’t believe you really ever considered the scientific explanation for anything that contradicted your presupposed belief in the inerrancy of the Bible.
Correction, Kent Hovind lied about, distorted, and misrepresented evolution and you bought it all hook, line, and sinker.
[quote]Common sense also told us that the earth was flat and that everything in the universe revolved around it. Both of those assertions also supported by a literal interpretation of the Bible were also proved incorrect. [/quote]
You’re wrong in your assertion. The Bible has always asserted that the Earth was round. Go to Isaiah 40:22 and read it for yourself. It says that “He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,[…]”. You should check the KJV from 1611.
[quote]I don’t believe you really ever considered the scientific explanation for anything that contradicted your presupposed belief in the inerrancy of the Bible.[/quote]
Here’s something for you to consider. This book explains the Hydroplate Theory. www.creationscience.com
BTW, the author (and K.Hovind as well) have offers to debate evolutionists in their fields (even more than 1 at once) and they refuse. Why would that be..? And there’re money offers for *real* scientific evidence (you know, observation, experimentation, or proposed mechanisms that go along with the laws of physics in order to try to explain the theory (which the theory of evolution lacks…mechanisms) and they dont have them).
[quote]Correction, Kent Hovind lied about, distorted, and misrepresented evolution and you bought it all hook, line, and sinker.[/quote]
The theory of evolution has not been misrepresented. Having my degrees in science, I obviously had to go through the theory of evolution myself at college campus. The did not distort, nor lie about the theory. I respect your beliefs…but your assertions are uninformed.
-xGhost
Free Hovind? Must be in the same category of a “Thinking Liberal” Heard of, but never actually seen.
Kent Hovind and his family is a dick.
Kent Hovind is my personal Hero who stands for what is right. His current situation with the I.R.S. and the very questionable court is unfortunate not only for him but for all America. Its another horrible action done by our very corrupt, runaway government. I will personally be glad and thankful when this unlawful institution (IRS) is finally abolished. I believe I speak for most all Americans in this regard. Look up and study the tax laws and you’ll find the shocking truth that we are indeed supposed to be the land of the free, not the land of the taxed. Don’t believe the politicians when they say we can’t survive without the income tax.…they are actually saying “they” can’t keep spending the way they do without the income tax!!! Anyway, say what you will…Kent is a good man and knows his stuff. Its hard to debate someone who is as well educated in science as Kent Hovind. I for one, do enjoy his tapes and debates. They make so much common sense…and fit into normal reasoning whereas evolution does not. For those who enjoy name calling I challenge you to get to know the Hovind’s. I guarantee when you do that you will see, these people are honest and true (unlike our federal government). So I leave you with this…more name calling??? Or will you take up the challenge and see what all the talk is about???
Sincerely, Michael Sherman
this is sort of like a debate between the 7 days and millions of years. For more info go to
www.youtube.com/group/evolutionvscreation
http://pandasthumb.org/archives/200[…]mment-141948
Its funny to see evolutionists engaged in name calling as a defense for their weak arguments. I think the reason they hate Hovind so much is because his material *is* the truth and they feel impotent to do anything about it. It could also be because Hovind has, quite successfully, taken evolution from the science department, and placed it where it should be, in the religion department. Even if they choose to scientifically debate him or his son Eric, they would loose miserably. Its unfortunate how a nation is destroyed from within because of people like these…or it may be that evolutionists havent evolved far enough for their brains to notice the facts of what they believe, on purpose.
~xghost();
No matter how old the “Free Hovinds” post gets, it still attracts a steady flow of of wingnuts out there googling “Hovind” in he middle of the night.
I wonder what Kent was doing while you were reading this thread, ghost. Oh wait, I know what he was doing–rotting in a jail cell for lying and cheating. Of course to the fundie fanatics, lying and cheating is the “truth” you refer to.
BTW, how exactly would “they” go about debating Kent Hovind, assuming “they” wanted to debate a raving loony? On the phone? Through 4 inches of bulletproof glass in the visiting room? Who might this debate convince of anything? The sex offender in the next cubicle, getting his monthly visit from his mother?
Suit yourself benny. Now, aside from the personal attacks you launched towards the man, the core of the issue I posted *could* be summarized like this: If you, or anyone here for that matter, can find something that does not exhibit evidence of intelligent design, you may have a reason to cling to your religion.
What could you start with?:
1. a pencil? nah…its designed… :o
2…your PC hardware?…not quite there yet -we still need a big bang in the engineering department ;)
3. …the code running inside of your PC?…no -maybe if you restart it enough times? ;)
4. …a factory?.. nope..
5…aha, I know, an Intel Core CPU.. that surely evolved from silicon and millions of years of compression etc.. :o
6…a molecule?…no..
7. …rules and established natural laws (which are unseen). how would you claim something like that ever evolved? for example, how do you evolve gravity? how do you get it working (the origin of the rule) to start with :o
7. … maybe a living cell?..
I think I’ll stop now. It makes your “scientific theory” look like what it is, science-Fiction.
~xghost();
ohhhhhh THAT’S what it is!
a TAX EVADER!
lol
I’ve read that kent Hovind has been sexually abused in jail repeatedly.. Is that true? I hope not.. Haha!
if you belive in creationism then your dumbbbbbbbbbbbb
aint no god, we just came from nothin broo’ss
Free Hovinds? Heck, you couldn’t pay me to take either of them… Oh, that wasn’t what the title here meant, was it?
Never mind.
:p
I am not a scientist, I am not a theologist, nor a doctor, or a dentist. I am a simple person with a simple IQ and all I want is truth. I do know one thing, that in the very little bit of research that I have done, people state too much theory as fact and fabricate too many pieces of evidence in order for me to make an informed decision.
Someday when I have the knowledge that everyone here seems to have, I will be happy to debate with all of you. But, what do I do in the meantime? I think I will continue to be a frog. Does anyone here know what a frog is? I would be happy to share it with you, but I don’t have time for the ridicule I would recieve. It has nothing to with human intelligence! But it has everything to do with intelligent design. LOL! I have better things to do than to engage in name calling and derogatory remarks. Oh! If any of my words are mispelled, I am not a scholar anymore than I am scientist.
I am a single mother of 5 kids. The only thing I have time for is to simply trust that there is more to this life than just chance. Yes! Some things do happen by chance, but in my world, if I don’t have a real foundation with a real purpose. What the hell am I doing here?? I know the answer to that question, but I am wondering if you do.
What do you see when you look at the earth? When you look at the wonders of the world, or as some would call, creation. What do you see? How do you think it got that way, and how do you think it manages to regenerate itself year after year? I am sorry that I don’t have any scientific answers for you, but I do know what I see, and I don’t need tests or evidence to verify it for me. Keeping it simple is a lot less stessful.
How did anyone manage before progress?
I think everyone needs to lay off on the attack against Kent Hovind. Isn’t he in jail?? He is being held accountable. When many criminals are not. He has every right, just as any american citizen, to appeal his case. If he has been charged wrongfully, then he has the right to file charges. I know people who have murdered people and charges were dropped because they filed cases against the authorities in the case. This is a tax evader we are talking about, not a murderer. Yet murderers and sex offenders walk free on a technicallity. WOW! Our judicial system is as mixed up as the debate about evolution and creation. Would the person with all of the real answers please come forward?? :-)
Glenda, your argument that we shouldn’t worry about Hovind because there are “worse” criminals out there is no better then trying to argue with a cop that they shouldn’t arrest a husband that is beating his wife and children because there are “worse” criminals out there.
A more abstract analogy would be like saying you shouldn’t donate to toys for tots because there are “better” charities like “Free Hovind” out there.
You are entitled to your opinion about Hovind but it does not change the fact that he lies and broke the law.
Do you want truth or Truth? Please give us your definition of “truth”. Please give us your definition of “Theory”. Because you have stated that you are not well versed in either science I’ll tell you the definition of “Theory” when applied to science.
A Theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena. In Science a Theory incorporates facts, laws, and tested hypotheses.
We don’t expect you to be a scholar or scientist. I can say for myself I would appreciate you make the effort of clicking on the “check spelling” link. While there are spelling police out there most of us are more interested in you articulating how you’ve thought out some of your conclusions.
If your view is that evolution is “just chance” then I have to tell you that your view is wrong. Natural Selection, one part of the theory of evolution, is the opposite of “just chance”. Natural Selection sets down some general rules that govern the direction of evolution. If it was “just chance” then we would not expect life to be anything more then what it was 3.5 billion years ago.
Depends on your definition of “real foundation” and “real purpose”. I can tell you what I believe I am doing here. I am here to live a happy life. This includes raising a beautiful son and expanding my knowledge of the universe that I live in. I’ll take a leap and read between your lines and address the notion of “God”. Many “God fearing” people say without “God” everyone would be immoral and do what ever makes them happy. While there are people out there that are like that, whether or not there is a “God”, most people have some level of altruism. Many of the things that make me happy involve making other people happy. I personally don’t need to have a “God” sitting over me to make me want to help a little old lady with her groceries or to make my girlfriend dinner, though I have to admit that there are reoccurring benefits to the latter. So if there is a “God” or not does not really effect what I’m doing here. The reason I help that little old lady with her groceries wouldn’t change. Frankly I’d more worried about “God fearing people” that think that without “God” everyone would be mass rapists.
I see an amazing place. When I look/think about most things in the universe I think that it is truly beautiful. How do I think it got here? How much time do you have?
I think that something, that we have not been able to scientifically figure out, caused a huge amount of energy at very high density to expand allowing the physical laws of our universe to cause that energy to form into mater and anti-mater. Because of some process we do not yet understand our universe seemed to have more mater then antimatter. Because of quantum fluctuations in the “early” universe the distribution of mater and energy was not uniform resulting in gravity, which we don’t fully understand yet, to condense the matter into clumps…. I could go on with my description but feel free to look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli[…]the_Big_Bang
If you read until you see “Formation of our solar system: 8 billion years” in the article we come to the time when the earth first started forming. I’m sure there are many good articles discussing the formation of the earth/moon system. Regardless about 500,000,000-1,000,000,000 years after the earth formed it was cool enough for simple life to exist. How this first life came about it known as “abiogenesis”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
which is separate from evolution. Evolution doesn’t talk about how life started on Earth but how it proceeded once it was here. Through the rules, all of which we don’t know yet but are continually learning more about, of evolution life has gone from the life on the early earth to what we see now.
I think you would be surprised to know that the Vatican does not have a problem with the current view of cosmology. Father Michał Heller is the current Vatican Observatory Adjunct Scholar and a member of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which is a council that advises the Pope on scientific matters. I’ve heard him, and many other clergy members, that have no problem with evolution.
see the Clergy letter project found at http://www.clergyletterproject.net/index.php for a list of currently 11,619 clergy in the US that support evolution.
Back to the Pontifical Academy. It is because of this council that the Roman Catholic Church is not stuck in the dark ages and is why Pope Pius the 12th could 1950 affirm that there is no conflict between evolution and and the doctrine of faith regarding man. Pope John Paul 2nd in 1996 reiterated this statement and added
I am unsure what you mean by “manages to regenerate itself”. If I understand what you are trying to say I’ll point out that you are sorely mistaken. In fact there is this little concept that you might have heard of called “Global Warming” that is a direct result of the Earth unable to “regenerate itself year after year”
You have elected to stand on the soap box and throw your 2 cents in. Let me say your 2 cents isn’t worth 2 cents. You fully admit you don’t know if your 2 cents right and don’t have the knowledge to say it is not counterfeit. Yet you turn to everyone here and state that your gut feel should trump the evidence. What you are claiming has been coined “Truthiness’ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
You should expect to be called on it. Feel free to ask questions. Yes I understand you are a single mother of 5 kids but don’t try to use that as an excuse so you can throw statements that scientists are wrong because your gut feel tells you otherwise.
Ah that is “Truthiness” to a T. You think you know what you see but you really don’t. Just like people that say they have a “system” when they gamble and think they win more then they loose. The majority are far from winners and lie to themselves to justify their behavior. The ones that really do have a system don’t gamble with things like slot machines but gamble against other people. Then it is much less about gut feels and more about raw number crunching.
Hmmm I don’t know what you are implying by the word “frog” I would more classify you as a “Mushroom” do you know why? I won’t keep you in suspense. It means you are happy to be in the dark and be fed shit. If that is your world then so be it, but don’t complain if you come out into the light and we point out that your view of the world smells like shit.
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