The Lost World of Kent Hovind

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Make sure you don’t miss this YouTube video on a visit to the now-closed Dinosaur Adventure Land, home base of convicted felon Kent “Dr. Dino” Hovind. It’s not exactly film festival material, but there are a lot of interesting tidbits.

HT: Pharyngula

An interesting phenomenon I have observed lately is that now that many Kent Hovind videos are on YouTube, a whole new group of people is realizing just what a wacky dude he was, and just how wacky it is that he is probably the most-known and quoted authority among the creationist public. Check out the Hovind-alia on YouTube (if you have an afternoon to kill…the stuff is strangely addictive).

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Great stuff. I have *blush* spent too much of my free time on youtube watching this stuff. Some of it is really insane. Keep going and see what we are fighting for and *gulp* against.

Wait! It gets worse. Barking mad! Breathtaking!

From conservapedia.com World History Lecture One Instructor, Andy Schlafly

Some things I sure didn’t know:

When did mankind first begin? There is no reliable evidence of man existing before 3500 B.C. –

We can also extrapolate backwards from modern populations to estimate that only about 300 million people existed in the world at the time of Christ, and extrapolating backwards further yields only one family in the year 3300 B.C. –

History books speculate at length about “prehistory”, which predates writing. But there is no reliable evidence to support this speculation, and not worth spending time on. There is no reason to think that man existed for thousands of years without ever expressing himself in written form –

So where did civilization begin? In a region known as Mesopotamia, which is Greek for “land between the rivers.” –

Genesis 2:8-17 (NAS) describes the beginning in Mesopotamia as follows: “The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. –

Using the ages mentioned in the Bible and counting backwards, biblical scholars have dated this as about 6000 years ago, or about 4000 B.C.

are those “Free Kent Hovind” videos parodies? I’m sure they are, but it’s really hard to tell the difference between someone pretending to be a confederate flag waving redneck who can’t read or spell to an actual redneck who can’t read or spell.

The funniest thing about conservapedia.com (aside from the name) is Commandment no. 1: “Everything you post must be true and verifiable.”

OK. I want to know who produced this load of manure?

You need to take time to observe your faith, and what you believe a little more closely. I lean more to A creator than we started from nothing

Gary Guiterrez said “ … I lean more to A creator than we started from nothing.”

Perhaps, Gary, you might consider how nothing-ness begat the creator.

I think you’re a bully for picking on people for what they believe. I guess Hovind is a bully too for picking on evolutionists, but at least he has the balls to offer his evidence when he does it. You just use your bad feelings in a video montage of what he has made. You really need to take a deeper look at your faith/your religon/evolution and see that you have nothing but faith to stand on either. You weren’t here, and you have nothing to test what was here, because for all we know it is nothing like what it was when it started. For all you really know we are products of A creator. You have the right to believe what you want, but quit being a pussy and picking on other people for what they believe. I’m not meaning to pick on your either, I want you to have the best life you can. I will have forgotten about you and this blog in a few weeks, because there is a great big world for me to admire, I might remember someday, but I will not give a shit then I’m sure. So be nice, lend a hand to someone, and have a better life.

My name is spelled Gutierrez, and If A creator could bring all this into existance I doubt that creator would need to worry about anything-ness, nothing-ness, or where to put the matter once it was created. Unless we are both just figments of each other imagination, we still need to explore time, space and matter a little more in depth. I know you can’t have any of those without having the others. It’s a law, kinda like gravity is a law. So did laws just invent themselves from nothing too? I wonder, but I feel I am closer to “the truth” than evolutionists. Is pi the never ending non repeating answer, I wonder.

Gary Wrote:

So be nice, lend a hand to someone, and have a better life.

So how is being presumptuous (claiming that other persons are and must be religious), or spouting (reacting to an answer with a tirade) any of the above?

Gary Wrote:

and you have nothing to test what was here

How is lying, or possibly misunderstanding how science works, helping you in any of the above?

Really, you should quit being such a bully in blogs, if you don’t like the understandably reaction you will get.

I lean more to A creator than we started from nothing

Gee, and here I thought we started from the joining of two gametes.

I think you’re a bully for picking on people for what they believe.

And I think you’re an idiot and a troll, so we’re even.

wow! A troll? Well then that would explain my being a bully in blogs. I have never read a story with a nice troll. Just as I have not known an evolutionist that was not religously following the faith and belief of Evolutionalism, oh crap it ends in ism, hmmm what does that ism mean..look it up BIautch, you think your scholarly. In my eyes your just the same as creationist…in need of better evidence and mean as a snake when you’re challanged on what you believe. Just so you can realize this, I am helping many people, and mine goes past giving a dollar to a beggar, or a ride to a hitcher. You don’t know it, but I am actually helping you. I doubt you can see it though. You’re blinded by your science, which is not real science, but that is a whole other problem I have with you people. Gotta go, peace and good will to you all.

Well then that would explain my being a bully in blogs.

Hey, you’re quick.

good will

Uh, right.

OK. I want to know who produced this load of manure?

Wow. I am starting to wonder if it is an unyielding law of the universe that every single person who quotes the Bible about “thinking themselves wise, they became fools” has no idea what they are talking about.

LOL – moving on – they trumpet the Hovind $250,000 challenge!

Theory, not fact – check.

Only 2 peppered moths ever observed on tree trunks – check. The Phillip Johnson clip is a nice touch.

This stuff goes on and on, this is just part one of at least 10 parts. I dunno the source, one of the evangelical TV shows probably.

Uh, Gary, we’re “picking on” Hovind because he’s a tax cheat and a fraud, not to mention a charlatan when it comes to scientific claims. The man was found guilty on 44 counts.

Gary,

No-one is complaining that Hovind is a bully. The complaint is that he is a liar who is taking advantage of other people’s ignorance to line his own pocket.

You seem to believe that because nobody was around in the past then it is impossible to know anything about it. Have you ever wondered why scientists (regardless of religion) are so confident about their conclusions?

You calling an understanding of evolution ‘evolutionism’ does not make it a religious belief.

“You don’t know it, but I am actually helping you.” Arrogant nitwit.

Gary spewed Wrote:

Just as I have not known an evolutionist that was not religously following the faith and belief of Evolutionalism, oh crap it ends in ism, hmmm what does that ism mean..look it up BIautch, you think your scholarly.

This is a common line taken by those who object to science, used specifically in an attempt to blur the line between science and religion. I would like, however, to see an instance of a religion in which individual belief (i.e., faith) was accepted by others exclusively on the basis of empirical data supporting it. Moreover, I would be overjoyed to see a religion based on methodological naturalism. If I found such a religion, I would adopt it myself. As it stands, however, the foundation of every religion with which I am familiar is essentially argument by authority. We don’t have that luxury in science, Gary. We have to prove our assertions at every turn, and the same skepticism that greets religious assertion, to which you object, likewise are turned on every new hypothesis advanced by a scientist, no matter how well-respected he/she might be on the basis of previous work.

And if some of think we’re “scholarly,” perhaps it’s because in order to do this, we are required to go to school and learn about the work that’s come before us, thus avoiding the necessity of reinventing the wheel at every turn… as you are doing here with your inaccurate definitions. Anyone can claim to be religious; there’s no particular qualification to do so. Science demands rigor, and being a scientist demands scholarship. So yes, you wil find that most scientists consider themselves scholarly, being that they have spent, and continue to spend, most of their time in scholarly pursuits.

In my eyes your just the same as creationist…in need of better evidence and mean as a snake when you’re challanged on what you believe.

But Gary, your eyes don’t matter, because you don’t know what the evidence is. Just a basic one here… but if you can explain how a slight alteration in the structure of a DNA gyrase might affect the replication of a gene, what’s “in your eyes” might mean something to someone other than yourself. If not, then why should it matter what you think about this subject?

Just so you can realize this, I am helping many people, and mine goes past giving a dollar to a beggar, or a ride to a hitcher. You don’t know it, but I am actually helping you. I doubt you can see it though. You’re blinded by your science, which is not real science, but that is a whole other problem I have with you people.

What exactly is your definition of “real science?” The kind of science that most evolutionary biologists, biochemists, etc., do has resulted in decades to centuries of progress, greater understanding, predictable results, etc What other kind of science are you advocating… or are you, like so many others before you, simply advocating a return to assertions from authority being taken as “Gospel truth,” not subject to investigation and, thereby, rejection?

Gotta go, peace and good will to you all.

Yeah… hit and run much? I look forward to your reply. In the case that no replies are forthcoming, “In my eyes” you’ll just be one more intellectual coward who demands attention without deserving it.

I think you’re a bully for picking on people for what they believe.

Ah yes, the “crybaby lamb of God” stance, typical of so many ignorant “Christians:” jump into a grownup debate, make idiotic statements, have your idiocy pointed out to you, then act hurt and outraged and call us bullies for not giving you special treatment because you call yourself a “Christian;” then make a big show of insisting you don’t really care about us, and taking your ball and going home. No mention of the actual issue being debated here, just outrage and phony wounded self-pity.

How old are you, kid? By your tone and lame writing, I’m guessing junior high school age. Do your parents know you’re making an ass of yourself here?

A year or two ago I downloaded a bunch of Hovind videos via bitTorrent. I was interested because they are shown on TV locally on occasion but I can’t seem to watch very long before I get dizzy. I figured that if I had them available I could watch them a little at a time when I was feeling strong enough. Well, that does not work. After at most 15 minutes I become nauseous and my eyes begin to move independently of one another as a result of the insane ‘logic’ of the non sequiturs spewed by ‘Dr.’ Hovind. The slides go by so fast that there is not time to think. Not that the slack-mouthed, blank stares of his audience show any evidence of thought anyway, of course.

I’m many things, and I plan to be many more, however just as infinate as pi is a number, A creator could be as well. Laws are laws, and science is science, but I still stand that evolution is a much a religious belief as Jesus Christ is. I find it interesting that man with his many inventions and well thought out plans, can neither draw a “perfect” circle, or bring something into existance from nothing. So call me what you will, and as for Hovind, he is what he is. I do not judge him, or what he has done, I just think that evolutionists are bigger hypocrites that most Christians are.

I just think that evolutionists are bigger hypocrites that most Christians are.

Since you are stupid, ignorant, hateful, arrogant, and extraordinarily hypocritical, what you claim to think about this is irrelevant.

A fairly common form of theist attack:

Your views are just as much crap as ours; both are faith based dogma.

A strange way of arguing, one might think.

But, this denies the entire validity of reason and science and is an attack on the capacity of the human mind. In one form or another, this is a constantly recurring attack by theists. Any time a view reduces to a claim of the equivalence of faith and reason, we are seeing this attack being perpetrated. Why would one engage in such a malicious attack? Religion is a weed that can only grow when reason is abandoned.

quote=”gary” “I lean more to A creator than we started from nothing.”

Science doesn’t say anything about a WHO- only the HOW. you seem to have those mixed up in you sentence.

“I just think that evolutionists are bigger hypocrites that most Christians are.”

What about the christian evolutionists?

I think you need to learn more about what you speak about before speaking.

There’s no basis at all for the claim that evolutionists are hypocrites, with or without Christians.

I think the production values on the dino-park video are better than on the anti-evo videos..

I think you’re a bully for picking on people for what they believe. I guess Hovind is a bully too for picking on evolutionists, but at least he has the balls to offer his evidence when he does it.

somebody’s got it exactly back-asswards.

shocker.

I’m many things, and I plan to be many more, however just as infinate as pi is a number

don’t tell me, let me guess:

pi=3

right?

I’ve seen Hovind in action a number of times on TBN’s “Praise the Lord” and he really is an absolute nutter (and that’s speaking from a Christian point of view !). However, the sad thing is, Hovind isn’t the only person to have a creation museum. There was a very funny bit on You Tube by John Stewart about Carl Baugh (although it seems to have been removed due to copy write reasons) and it also drew our attention to the Flintstones (I’ve often wondered if Hannah Barbera were YEC’s !).

And then there’s AiG’s mega-museum which is due to open it’s doors in a couple of month’s time. Serious scientists may laugh at Hovind, but AiG believe in most of the claims that were put forward in the video. Their museum definitely doesn’t any problem with building permits !

A fairly common form of theist attack: “Your views are just as much crap as ours; both are faith based dogma.” A strange way of arguing, one might think.

Not for a grade-schooler. I’ve argued that way a few times myself, until I started growing facial hair, discovered girls, and realized they didn’t dig crybaby-subjectivists.

Re “(I’ve often wondered if Hannah Barbera were YEC’s !).”

Hmmm. If the content of the Flintstones implies its writers were YECs, what’s that say about the writers of Road Runner and Wily E.? (Now there’s a denial of several areas of physics and biology… )

Henry

Gary, sorry about having misspelled your name, it could happen to anyone: by the way, “existance” is spelled “existence”.

You responded to my question about what begat the creator by implying (it seems to me) that A creator created the nothing-ness that the creator was spawned from. Neat trick.

We all know that everything must have an origin, even as must a creator.

As for answering where did physical “laws” come from, I think they came from scientists who use the word to describe their best understanding of how the universe works. Whose “law of gravity” is right? Einstein’s, Newtons’s or Fred’s, my drinking mate from the pub?

Cheers

The Lost World of Kent Hovind

Not to be confused with the Lost World Museum, a creationist museum in upstate New York.

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