Some Expelled News from Kansas

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1. Expelled opens in Lawrence today. The newspaper gives it one star out of four, offering this review:

Droning funnyman Ben Stein monkeys around with evolution with the new documentary, Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, a cynical attempt to sucker Christian conservatives into thinking they’re losing the “intelligent design” debate because of academic “prejudice.”

2. On the other side of the scale, the Intelligent Design network sent an email to many teachers and others in public education in the Kansas City area, saying, in part:

This Friday, April 18th, is FREEDOM FRIDAY!

You will no longer have to live in fear of the Darwinian Thought Police and their power to ruin your career! They are about to be ‘publicly exposed’ by the new documentary movie, “EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed”!

“EXPELLED,” starring Ben Stein, is opening in 1,000 theaters nationwide. Smart students and their parents can’t wait to see it! They have all heard the Darwinists’ side in the debate over origins. Now they will determine if the Darwinists have acted properly by censoring the scientific data and evidence from students, teachers and parents that opposes Darwinian evolution and points to the reality of God!

Have you ever wondered about the scientific validity of the major proofs of evolution?

Have you ever wondered what the controversy over the teaching of origins science is really about?

Have you wondered why Darwinists will not allow origins science to be taught objectively?

Have you wondered if scientists have found evidence for God?

Have you ever fully understood why you have this fear of mentioning God in the classroom?

If your answer to any of these questions is ‘yes’, then this earth-shattering documentary will open your eyes to the cover-up of the century!

Students, teachers, and parents will now see and hear the other side of the story as they view “EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed”. They will begin to draw new conclusions for themselves about the “thought police” as well as the most important question they will ever try to answer: Where did I come from?

Talk about hyperbolic rhetoric - this takes the cake: “FREEDOM FRIDAY”, “Darwinian Thought Police”, “cover-up of the century!”. What reasonable person could take these overblown pronouncements seriously?

And how about “scientific data and evidence … that points to the reality of God!”

It seems to me that Expelled has blown the last vestiges of the ID movement’s attempt to pretend that they are just about science, and no religion is involved. Of course we’ve known all along that the goal of the ID movement, as Philip Johnson has explained, has been to show that “‘In the Beginning was the Word’ is as true scientifically as it is Biblically,” but Expelled and its promotion now spills that premise out in public on the big screen.

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FREEDOM FRIDAY! Well zippity-doo-dah! Is that anything like Freedom Fries?

I’d really like to see this hog-swilling, but can’t figure out how to do it on the cheap (free).

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It seems to me that Expelled has blown the last vestiges of the ID movement’s attempt to pretend that they are just about science, and no religion is involved. Of course we’ve known all along that the goal of the ID movement, as Philip Johnson has explained, has been to show that “‘In the Beginning was the Word’ is as true scientifically as it is Biblically,” but Expelled and its promotion now spills that premise out in public on the big screen.

Which is the ultimate vindication of the Rev. Dr. Lenny Flank’s observation that they can’t shut up about it. Let ‘em talk and they’ll hang themselves.

I’m going to buy a ticket to a different movie and try to sneak into Expelled. Then I can sit and laugh while not having given the producers one cent.

They have all heard the Darwinists’ side in the debate over origins.

Uh, no they haven’t. In class they may have heard some evidence for evolution. From decades of listening to people talk, though, I’m convinced that few students other than college level biology majors get enough information to dispel the false caricature pounded into them by the sensationalist media. But even if they do get a decent education in evolutionary biology, that is not the same thing as a thorough rebuttal to the many misrepresentations resulting from decades of anti-evolution activism. Activism that in fact “evolved” into a strictly negative attack on a “Darwinism” caricature and a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy regarding any potential better theory.

No, the “Darwinists’” side that “Expelled” advocates know that few people have heard, is the systematic demolishing of decades of anti-evolution canards, like this.

In science class ideas are defended on their own merits, not on manufactured “weaknesses” in the prevailing explanation. “Weaknesses” that in this case are “designed” exclusively to promote unreasonable doubt.

Why bother to sneak?

Just go up to any theater shift-manager who is more then likely a college student of some type and offer him a twenty to let you go see it without buying a ticket.

A kid that likely needs it will get 20 dollars and you can feel like you donated to a good cause.

What reasonable person could take these overblown pronouncements seriously?

They’re counting on the unreasonable ones. I think this movie shows they’ve given up any pretense to intellectual honesty and respectablity.

None of my local papers liked it, either. Even in the heart of DIsco country, they just can’t get any respect from us mean, evil Darwinists… I mean, movie reviewers.

Correction: respectability. Argh. The barstards are affecting my spelling now… just writing about Expelled makes you stoopid!

“Have you ever wondered if scientists have found evidence for God?”

No, I haven’t. Because real scientists would publish their findings for all to see and everyone would know about it immediately. Who wouldn’t want to be that famous?

What, there is a scientific conspiracy against God as well? That’s funny, most scientists probably believe in God, so why would there be a conspiracy and how could it be 100% effective if less than 50% of scientists refused to participate?

No religion has any evidence for God whatsoever, scientists or not. It’s a matter of personal faith and that’s the way it should be. That’s what the Bible says. People who have faith should not demand proof and they shouldn’t be blaming scientists for not finding that proof, they should be thanking them.

And even if scientists did have evidence of God’s existence, odds are it wouldn’t be your God anyway, so be thankful.

Talk about hyperbolic rhetoric - this takes the cake

This really is over the top. I’m suspicious it may be more proof of Poe’s Law: “Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won’t mistake for the real thing.” - http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe’s_Law

David Stanton: What, there is a scientific conspiracy against God as well? That’s funny, most scientists probably believe in God, so why would there be a conspiracy and how could it be 100% effective if less than 50% of scientists refused to participate?

Actually, one of the weirdest/scariest things I find about Creationists and their ilk is that they’re convinced that not only do scientists know that the evidence doesn’t point to evolution, but they know that it points to there being a god and deliberately cover up both facts in a vast conspiracy. Similarly, most of the same people can’t conceive that there are people who genuinely don’t believe that god exists. They think that atheists really know that god exists and are in denial because they (the atheists) can’t stand the thought of something being more powerful than them. It’s pretty messed up really.

I can assure that the email is the real thing, and not a parody, but I agree with the point: I don’t see how someone (in this case, probably John Calvert) can write this stuff with a straight face.

Jeanette Catsoulis reviews Expelled for the New York Times (Resentment Over Darwin Evolves Into a Documentary (Registration required)):

One of the sleaziest documentaries to arrive in a very long time, “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” is a conspiracy-theory rant masquerading as investigative inquiry.

A link to this review along with the above quote appeard as the first link in the Google search for Expelled I just tried.

NYT:

“Expelled” is rated PG (Parental guidance suggested). It has smoking guns and drunken logic.

The NY Times puts it well. The logic isn’t drunken though. It was exterminated in a death camp by Premise media along with its brother, the truth.

You know, IF evolution was all hogwash and Genesis was correct or even just mildly plausible, “cover-up of the century” would be a fair statement. But it’s not.

I’m not too fond of my current job, but I must admit, it’s a heck of a lot better than knowingly lying to promote absurd falsehoods.

Darwinian Thought Police

Double-plus good! Where do I line up to get my badge and gun?

Happy “Freedom Friday” everybody!!

Would it not have been more efficient to list evidence for creation in the e-mail?

To all of you who would go see the film without paying:

I refuse to do that for two reasons: (1) I take seriously the Commandment “Thou Shalt Not Steal,” and (2) I refuse to give the scam artists ammunition to accuse their critics of breaking one Commandment while they break another (Thou Shalt Not Bearing False Witness against Thy Neighbor.” Plus if the accusations of plagiarism prove valid, they are also breaking the one about stealing.

Is the phrase “origins science” as used in that message a new turn on “creation science” or is it an old one? I haven’t seen it previously. As ID dies a painful and public death, are we seeing a molting to a new set of feathers for the same tired bird.

Would it not have been more efficient to list evidence for creation in the e-mail?

They did list all the creationist evidence. Since there is none, it was a short paragraph.

You don’t have to see it, any more than you have to see “2 Girls 1 Cup” to know that it’s a vile and nasty film.

If you must, then wait, it will come to a church basement near you soon enough. If they provide cookies go and watch it there. As long as they’re home made oatmeal raisin. And the coffee is good. And they promise you a blowjob from the Pastor’s daughter. Both of them

Just wait a while to see the movie. I expect that they will be giving DVDs away before long.

When I took high school biology, evolution took up a few days at the most. We studied cells, plants, animals in a basic way, and simple genetics, the various systems of the body (circulation, digestion, reproduction, skeletal).

I didn’t learn about the strong evidential support for evolution until after I started reading about it on my own. So, most students are really not going to learn much about evolution, and they can be easily hoodwinked.

The remedy is to make the understanding of evolutionary theory a basic goal of high school biology. It would probably be more valuable than memorizing all of the bones in the human body, LOL!

“Origins science” is a standard creationist/ID term for science concerning the history of anything: the universe, the earth and its geological features, and the origin of life and its diversity. Their basic claim is that such science is not solid science because no one was there to see these things happen and there is no way to confirm them with experiments, so therefore a theistic interpretation of special creation is just as valid as an interpretation in terms of natural causes. Note well that this is not a God vs. science issue, but rather a “God did it miraculously” interpretation vs. all other interpretations, religious or not.

There were no local previews for reviewers of Expelled, so no local movie critics could write a review. The review quoted above was also in my local Austin, TX newspaper with the byline “By Roger Moore - The Orlando Sentinel”.

When I put “funnyman Ben Stein monkeys around” into Google, I get quite a few hits. If you go to this page:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/ente[…]ment/movies/

then you can click on “Expelled is a mockery of evolution”. There are a few sentences at the end which did not appear in my local newspaper.

One of the reviews linked at expelledexposed says what most moviegoers knows is true: If it is not screened in advance for critics, it probably is not very good, and the producers know it. Another marketing technique is to give snippets of positive reviews in ads. One thing to always do is check the source of those quotes. If a high-profile reviewer likes it, you can be sure they’re quoted. It’s always interesting to see how far down the reviewer food-chain they have to go to find a good quote.

Todays Washington Post says that movie was not screened for critics, yet the ad for ‘Expelled’ has two positive quotes; One from the Washington Times, and the other from famous movie critic Rush Limbaugh.

Wow, that email is loony-tunes for sure. I’ve passed it along to show just how nuts these hardcore creationists really are…

… keep repeating the meme folks:

Ben Stein has jumped-the-couch! :)

For those who don’t know, here’s a reference on “jumping the couch”…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumpin[…]#Controversy

David vun Kannon, FCD Wrote:

Is the phrase “origins science” as used in that message a new turn on “creation science” or is it an old one?

I have seen “origins” (e.g. “theories of orgins”) used a lot during the last 5-10 years, generally from the rank and file anti-evolutionists who know enough about ID to know that “creation science” and “creationism” are politically incorrect terms. “Origins” is a classic meme that exploits public confusion of evolution vs. abiogenesis. Most who find the meme appealing may be among the confused, but some of the smarter ones are surely in on the scam.

Remember, for creationists, the Universe, the Earth, Life and Man were all created in one continuous event, which lasted one week minus one day.

That why they repeatedly tie biology to the Big Bang, and why they are sometimes willing to allow some degree of “adaptation” for bacteria and other animals, as long Man doesn’t come from Ape.

That why they repeatedly tie biology to the Big Bang, and why they are sometimes willing to allow some degree of “adaptation” for bacteria and other animals, as long Man doesn’t come from Ape.

And that’s in spite of the fact that the differences between species of apes (human, chimpanzee, gorilla, etc.) are quite minor when compared to the differences between orders, classes, or phyla of animals. (No ape species has a major body part or system that the others don’t have, afaik, or even a major rework of a homologous part to perform a different function.)

Henry

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