Why is Censorship of Scrutiny so Much a Part of Intelligent Design?

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While Michael Egnor is accusing the scientific community of censorship, the Institut Discotheque is advertising a summer seminar on Intelligent Design, and there’s something very interesting about the advertisement. Applicants for the seminar are required to provide various information about their grades and their interests, as well as “a letter of recommendation from a professor who knows your work and is friendly toward ID, or a phone interview with Dr. Bruce Gordon, CSC Research Director.” Now that’s interesting–a letter from someone who is “friendly toward ID”? What is this if not a litmus test–a gatekeeper device to prevent critics or doubters from attending their seminar?

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I guess they don’t want to teach the controversy, and the litmus test saves them the trouble of having to have anyone EXPELLED.

Why does the Discovery Institute hate academic freedom so much?

Practically, of course, if they didn’t demand “loyalty oaths” and the like, they’d lose every time.

They cannot prevail in any free forums, which is why Egnor writes on a forum that is not free. And the real ID discussions occur in forums that they don’t even let us read.

Doesn’t “loyalty oath science” deserve the same rights as any science that is open to all scientists?

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Why is Censorship of Scrutiny so Much a Part of Intelligent Design?

Ummm, because the easiest way to avoid embarrassing observations about the emperor having no clothes is to prevent the people with eyes from speaking.

Highlights of the DI’s seminar/registration process.

“Still accepting applications…” They’ve gotten few/no responses for those empty seats.

“…9 days learning about intelligent design from top ID thinkers?”

Sternberg says he wasn’t a creationist? I think SPU was disgusted with West and deposed of him from their faculty.

“focuses on science but … there are two tracks: one for science majors and another for … social sciences …”?

The wedge is expanding; both are stealth DI components. Move ID/creationism into the classroom and the public/political arena, e.g., school boards, legislatures.

“A letter of recommendation from an ID-friendly source…”

You’ll find out who they are when they sue their institution for wrongful termination despite their efforts to pursue their ID/creationist goals (Woods Hole, the Smithsonian, etc.).

“…prepare them to make research contributions advancing the growing science of intelligent design (ID).” And “…explore cutting-edge ID work in molecular biology, biochemistry, embryology, etc, etc.”

So their peer review papers will be flooding the journals? Criminology? Evolutionary ethics?

Ah, their come-on question: “Do you have a commitment to truth and to following the evidence where it leads?”

The answer for the ID/creationist, of course, is NO.

I love the blatant hypocrisy of the Discovery Institute. What a truly pathetic band of mendacious intellectual pornographers. Again and again they whine and moan about “witch hunts” against them by mainstream science, and yet, when it comes time for them to organize a “scientific conference”, they resort in a manner befitting their crypto-Fascist behavior, as discerned by both philosopher Barbara Forrest and biologist Paul Gross in their respective writings, especially their book, “Creationism’s Trojan Horse: The Wedge of Intelligent Design”. If anyone wishes to doubt the DI’s Fascist orientation, then one needs to look no further than to think seriously, the implications of getting a “loyalty oath” letter of recommendation before registering for this DI conference.

Cheer up everyone. Shenanigans like this just make it that much easier to demonstrate to courts that what they do ain’t science.

The DI is stuck in a catch-22. Conduct open peer review and their work is shown to be bunk. Close down peer review and their work is shown to be unscientific.

To my knowledge, after a year, Ben Stein has not said word one to defend himself - or heaven help us, admit having been wrong on at least a few points - in response to “Set Ben Straight.” So I guess we should not hold our breath waiting for his spin on how the DI “expels”.

Heh. For some reason Egnor is doing what my brother and I used to do when watching Friday Night Fright Night movies on the old B&W set. When the scary scene came to its stomach churning climax and the face of the monster was finally revealed, we clapped our hands over our eyes. And peeked between our fingers.

He and the DI want to engineer a situation for one specific purpose. The installing of religion into law. This, of course, is flatly ruled out by the forethought of the founders. What ever superstitions they may have entertained they were practically unanimous in removing the union of church and state from the business of civilized states.

These poor folks who try and try to justify their faith have run completely out of resources and perforce resort to strong arming our system of government.

Playground politics. Should be roundly, loudly and frequently ridiculed.

And soundly squelched. Which is likely to happen if their current desperation continues.

eric said:

Cheer up everyone. Shenanigans like this just make it that much easier to demonstrate to courts that what they do ain’t science.

The DI is stuck in a catch-22. Conduct open peer review and their work is shown to be bunk. Close down peer review and their work is shown to be unscientific.

Excellent point.

Frank J said:

To my knowledge, after a year, Ben Stein has not said word one to defend himself - or heaven help us, admit having been wrong on at least a few points - in response to “Set Ben Straight.” So I guess we should not hold our breath waiting for his spin on how the DI “expels”.

Frank you’ve got Ben all wrong, he will say anything you want him to say if the money is right.

I have no doubt that for the right price, Ben Stein would renounce ID and become a fervent evolutionist.

Kengee said:

Frank J said:

To my knowledge, after a year, Ben Stein has not said word one to defend himself - or heaven help us, admit having been wrong on at least a few points - in response to “Set Ben Straight.” So I guess we should not hold our breath waiting for his spin on how the DI “expels”.

Frank you’ve got Ben all wrong, he will say anything you want him to say if the money is right.

Chayanov said:

I have no doubt that for the right price, Ben Stein would renounce ID and become a fervent evolutionist.

But the problem is, aside from coughing up that much money, why would anyone be desperate want to have the approval of a snake-oil sellout like Ben Stein?

I won’t be adding to Ben Stein’s Money. He can sell his soul to whoever he wants and it won’t make his viewpoint logical or scientific. The fact that it makes an otherwise intelligent guy like Stein look like an idiot nullifies any good PR they think they could achieve.

At the end of the day, what these lunatics really crave is the ability to torture people they don’t like to death (gays, heathens and other assorted atheists, etc.) and use God as their excuse. This is all a complete speculation on my part since torture of any kind is completely abhorrent to Americans…uh..

Enjoy.

Sorry for the interruption, but I originally surfed over here looking to see what’s up with Freshwater. I’ve got a personal bet with myself as to whether Al Franken gets his Senate seat before the Freshwater hearings are over or not.

Enjoy.

That’s why Stein is still a Liar for Jesus. Nobody else is paying.

Stanton said:

Chayanov said:

I have no doubt that for the right price, Ben Stein would renounce ID and become a fervent evolutionist.

But the problem is, aside from coughing up that much money, why would anyone be desperate want to have the approval of a snake-oil sellout like Ben Stein?

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