Flagellum evo -- further discussion

For you flagellum wonks in the audience, an interesting and fairly detailed discussion of some of the science issues and, for lack of a better word, etiquette issues, took place over here at T. Taxus in “JCVI Evolutionary Genomics Journal Club on Liu-Ochman.”

(The discussion is also good for Esperanto wonks.)

P.S. added in edit:

FWIW (for what it’s worth), here is my list of online mentions/discussions of the L&O Flagellum Paper Controversy. (Rough draft and there may be some errors or misinterpretations. You have been warned.) It’s a pretty mixed bag for sure – some fairly creduluous citation of L&O which bugs me, some criticism of the PT blog criticisms, some ID piggybacking although most of them don’t even really get what the issues are (Dembski only caught on after I started noting that other IDists weren’t on the right track), etc. And in the grand scheme of things, this is not a huge amount of material – 45 items (if it was much bigger I wouldn’t attempt a listing anyway). We don’t have a “what if the PT blog criticism had been different” control group so any analysis will be dubious, but my suspicion is that whatever its flaws the PT criticism got a lot of people to look at the paper more carefully and may have stopped a lot of foot-shooting.